HO NHL 2017-2018
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Portilol » 22 Abr 2018, 00:24

:botar: :botar: :botar:
oi!R escribió:Y luego nos llaman fachas a los del HORMCF cuando siempre socializamos a nuestros anormales con el resto del floro.

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 22 Abr 2018, 16:09

Resultados del día de ayer.
- Lightning 3-1 ̶D̶e̶v̶i̶l̶s̶. Game 5 (TBL 4-1).
- Capitals 4-3 OT Blue Jackets. Game 5 (WSH 3-2).
- Bruins 3-4 Maple Leafs. Game 5 (BOS 3-2).
Lightning pasó de ronda y mandaron de vacaciones a los Devils. Tremenda la eliminatoria de las OTs entre Washington y Columbus (a lo tonto con tanto periodo extra ya han jugado un par de partidos más). Y cómo disfruta Dunc que los Young Lefillas planten cara a Bruinosos salvando el matchball. 8-)

Esta noche (21:00h horario europeo) Philly vs Pingüinos y por la madrugada Avs vs Preds. Todo o nada.

Por cierto, desde las 16:00h está en marcha el Game 5 de la Gagarin Cup con 3-1 a favor de AK Bars Kazan sobre CSKA Moscú. O sea, que hoy ya podría haber campeón de la KHL. Y con sorpresa.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Astur-Malagueño » 22 Abr 2018, 23:42

Que un jugador meta 4 goles seguidos vale? El bueno no era Crosby???

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Portilol » 22 Abr 2018, 23:50

Lo de Philly con los porteros es un drama desde hace ya tiempo. Y dieron una tercera por Mrazek para que, con los otros 2 fardos que tienen, sólo haya jugado media horita en playoffs en un partido que ya iban palmando de 5. :D

Putos Voladores, y putos Pingüinos que salvo que hagamos el vaina contra los Chaquetas nos van a volver a mandar a la habitación del sueño. :-?
oi!R escribió:Y luego nos llaman fachas a los del HORMCF cuando siempre socializamos a nuestros anormales con el resto del floro.

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Duncan Ferguson » 23 Abr 2018, 09:25

Prunostico que la serie Tejones - Predators se va a 7 partidos, ni idea de quién gana. Los Tiburones ganan en 6 a los Chances y en el este Pittsburgh se focka a los Caps (bueno, esto no sé si entra en categoría prunostico). Pasan Bruins en 7 contra Lefas y les ganan la semi a Tampa.

8-)

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 23 Abr 2018, 10:16

Con la pirula dura ese Preds-Jets que se viene. Debería ser la final de conferencia.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Astur-Malagueño » 23 Abr 2018, 12:08

Venga va, yo también pronostico desde mis total y absoluto desconocimiento.
Jets en 7 a Preds.
Mis Caballeros en 6 a Tiburones.
Mis Caballeros en 7 a Jets.

Bolts en 6 a Bruinosos.
Pinguinos en 5 a Craps.
Pinguinos en 6 a Bolts.

La final ya la pronosticaré si se da.

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 23 Abr 2018, 12:34

Ayer AK Bars Kazan ganó el encuentro (4-1 en la final) y se hizo con una nueva Gagarin Cup. Ya tienen 3.

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Portilol » 24 Abr 2018, 04:15

:botar: :botar: :botar: :botar:

#BeatPingüinosDelBurgoDelPis

... Al final siempre me ilusiono cuando esta pinícula ya me la sé de memoria. :-?
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 24 Abr 2018, 10:56

Resultados de anoche.
- Maple Leafs 3-1 Bruins. Game 6 (3-3).
- ̶B̶l̶u̶e̶ ̶J̶a̶c̶k̶e̶t̶s̶ 3-6 Capitals. Game 6 (WSH 4-2).
Young Lefillas forzando el séptimo partido. :cosuverde:

Blue Jackets. confused Enhorabuena a los Caps por pasar de ronda y ahora enfrentarse contra Pingüinos. :mrgreen:
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 24 Abr 2018, 11:50

Interesantes artículos éstos de la comparación entre los porteros (Rinne, Hellebuyck, Fleury y Jones). Lo envío en dos mensajes porque son algo largos.

Ya lo he leído en varios sitios pero el pasado verano HELLEGOD se fue una semanas a British Columbia con el entrenador de porteros y cambió completamente su forma de entrenar con otras rutinas y movimientos. ¿Resultado? Pasar de un portero normalito a un top de la competición rompiendo récords.


Pekka Rinne vs. Connor Hellebuyck

Revamped techniques have paid dividends for goalies in Predators-Jets series

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Nashville Predators starter Pekka Rinne closed out the first round with a shutout, making 22 saves in a 5-0 Game 6 win against the Colorado Avalanche on Sunday. Connor Hellebuyck of the Winnipeg Jets bounced back quickly after being pulled in Game 3 against the Minnesota Wild in the first round, posting consecutive shutouts to end the first-round series and eliminate the Wild in five games.

Rinne and Hellebuyck will meet in the second round, with Game 1 at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville (TBD).

Here is an in-depth look at each goalie's game.

Pekka Rinne, Nashville Predators

After backstopping the Predators to the Stanley Cup Final last season, Rinne, 35, made a couple of subtle, but significant, changes to his game this season. He adjusted his post play, with earlier entries in reverse-VH technique, eliminated a pre-shot hitch of tapping his blocker and glove together, and narrowed his stance on rush chances and plays from the point. He had a .927 save percentage during the regular season, but stumbled at times down the stretch, and his .909 mark in the first round was the lowest among goalies to advance in the West.

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Goal trends

Get out of his way: Rinne's style is less about filling space and more about reacting to shots, so it was a bit alarming to see teammates get between him and the puck so often in the first round, with screens a factor on five of 14 goals and deflections playing a role in four. That was a trend last season, when 33 percent of the goals allowed by Rinne involved a screen, but that number dropped to 18 percent this season, 4.4 percent below the average for goals tracked in breaking down playoff starting goalies for this project during the past two seasons. Rinne's taller, narrower stance should make it easier to see over screens and shift into long shots with his body rather than reaching for them, which leaves fewer holes in his 6-foot-5 frame. That also may explain why deflection goals against Rinne were down from 27 percent last season to 18 percent this season, but the Predators might want to let him see the release more and stop trying to play goalie themselves.

Clean off the rush: One of those screens came on the first goal of the series against Colorado, a long shot off the rush in Game 1. But even without a screen, Rinne was beaten cleanly from distance this season, with 24 of the 30 "clean-look" goals, where he had time to be set and could see the release, came off the rush.

Glove love: Rinne's impressive glove has been well documented, with roots in playing the Finnish version of baseball as a child. He will catch pucks on the other side of his body and scoop them off the ice in front of his pads, controlling rebounds other goalies would kick back into play. So, it's surprising to see four high-glove goals in the first round. Most came on the screen plays, however. Shots mid-glove and over the pads are a better option on clean chances to take advantage of the hunched-over, glove-up stance that returns in Rinne's game as plays get closer to the net, causing slight delays with his hands as he pushes to the ice and limiting his low reach.

Connor Hellebuyck, Winnipeg Jets

Hellebuyck, 24, had a breakout season after rebuilding his body this summer and updating key elements of his game with Jets goalie coach Wade Flaherty. All that work paid off with a .924 save percentage and 44 wins, passing Tom Barrasso for the most in a season by a United States-born goalie. The improvements to his foundation showed up when tracking his season and, after a little bit of reaching early, was increasingly evident as the first round progressed.

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Goal trends

Blocker not glove: One of the biggest changes Hellebuyck made with Flaherty starting late last season, is his glove position. He used to hold it unusually low along the edge of his pad, leaving him over-reliant on his elbow to make "chicken wing" saves up high. Hellebuyck was right around the average for mid- to high-glove goals this season, and showed off his new glove position with a great save on Wild forward Charlie Coyle in the opening minute of Game 2 in the first round. His number of allowed goals above the pad on the blocker side were higher than average and accounted for 43 percent of his tracked goal total. Unlike the glove, there is a tendency to turn and pull away on high-blocker shots rather than cutting them off in front of him. It manifests itself in two ways: reaching more on saves or goals, and more pucks under that arm.

Make him move: Even with deeper positioning in his crease, Hellebuyck's size (6-foot-4, 207 pounds) and tight stance doesn't leave shooters much space, forcing great shots on straight-line attacks. Creating lateral plays, which accounted for 51 percent of his tracked goals in the season, is important, and forcing him to move to his right helps. Hellebuyck moves better to his glove than his blocker, which isn't uncommon, and it showed up with more reaching and falling forward on blocker-side, back-door deflections against the Wild. Moving the other way, he showed better balance and vertical coverage pushing across to get a glove on Matt Dumba's 3-on-1 chance in Game 4.

Bad angles: Hellebuyck got caught going into his reverse-VH, sharp-angle technique with the puck too high in the zone on Eric Staal's high short-side shot in Game 3, but the addition of the technique to his post-integration repertoire during the past two seasons has mostly been a positive. Even with eight goals from either bad angles or using bad-angle techniques during the season, Hellebuyck usually does a nice job of not defaulting to his post play too early.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 24 Abr 2018, 11:55

Marc-Andre Fleury vs. Martin Jones

Weaknesses for goalies hard to detect in Golden Knights vs. Sharks series.

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Marc-Andre Fleury, Vegas Golden Knights

Fleury used an active style in the Knights' sweep of the Los Angeles Kings, allowing three goals and finishing with a .977 save percentage and two shutouts. He is long past the puck-chasing habits that led to playoff letdowns in previous seasons, but there are signs of the old, more aggressive Fleury in his first season with Dave Prior, the Vegas goalie coach. Fleury has blended those new positional preferences nicely with the improved post integration that helped turned his career around in Pittsburgh. Still, there were trends that come from painting outside the lines of his crease more often in the regular season, even if the Kings failed to take advantage in the first round.

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Goal trends

Off pads for rebounds, over to score: Fleury gave up 22 percent of his tracked goals on rebounds and tends to kick low shots out with active pads rather than steer them into corners with this stick. As good as he was at controlling high shots against the Kings, there were second chances off his pads. Getting to rebounds hasn't been easy against the Golden Knights, but when it happens, it is imperative those rebounds are shot over his leg pads, because Fleury is rarely out of a play laterally along the ice.

Off the rush: Prior wants his goalies to hold ground rather than flow backward with the rush and, as fast as Fleury is, that tendency can be attacked with lateral plays. Fleury gave up 49 percent of the tracked regular-season goals off the rush, significantly more than the 38.5 percent average for goals tracked while breaking down playoff starting goalies for this project during the past two seasons. There were also several scored quickly after the attacking team set up in the Vegas end, a trend that continued with a backdoor tap-in for Kings forward Alex Iafallo in Game 3. Vegas was slow to sort defensive-zone coverage on several goals in the regular season but Fleury's more aggressive positioning also played a role by leaving more lateral distance to recover.

Different rush strategy: The Sharks will need to adjust their rush attack, which featured attempts to pull the puck back to exploit the tendency of Anaheim goalie John Gibson to slide across on these plays. Fleury is more likely to beat those passes on his skates, making one-timers and quick shots more effective.

Patience up high: Prior's preferences paid off on high shots, especially on the glove side, with Fleury's mid- and high-glove goal totals 10 percent below average and well down from his totals last season. He showed off that glove in Game 4 against the Kings, getting a piece of great chances for Anze Kopitar and Dustin Brown in the third period. The Sharks may want to look lower. Fleury has allowed 19 five-hole goals among the past 103, including seven on clean shots where he was set and could see the release.

Martin Jones, San Jose Sharks

Jones used a quieter positional approach in the sweep of the Anaheim Ducks, allowing four goals and posting one shutout and a .970 save percentage. He stays mostly within the edge of his crease, beating plays with shorter, inside-out movements that force shooters to beat him around the edges of the net.
It will be a significant adjustment for Vegas shooters after facing the athletic acrobatics and beyond-the-blue aggression of Kings goalie Jonathan Quick in the first round, but don't confuse Jones' calm demeanor and efficiency for a lack of battle.

Goal trends

Left to right: Most goalies have one direction in which they move better and Jones has traditionally been better going to his glove side. A lack of early rotation moving toward his blocker leaves him more likely to push across flat instead of back toward his post. The result is a chasing of plays and being stranded outside his crease. This tendency, though, has happened a lot less often this season, and even when the Ducks scored on a left-to-right power play one-timer in Game 3, it took a perfect against-the-grain shot over his glove to beat Jones.

Against the grain: Jones' against-the-grain goals allowed were almost double the average, and two of the Ducks four goals in the series were scored this way. Playing deeper can leave goalies flat, or parallel to, the goal line in their movements, with less rotation of the back shoulder as they move, which creates a little exposure on these types of shots back the other way.

Low blocker, not high glove: At times in the first round, the Ducks appeared to be targeting Jones' glove, and while his deeper positioning can leave space in the upper corners of the net, a tendency to pull back with his shoulders off the release makes it harder to reach shots just above the pad on the blocker side. Anaheim scored there from long range early in Game 2, and Jones 23 mid- and high-blocker goals and seven under that arm, are above the averages for the goalies tracked during this project.

Low-high: Jones gave up 23 goals on low-high plays that start from bad angles or below the goal line this season, which was above the average (18.3 percent) but down from the 33 he allowed in the 2016-17 regular season. Still, two of the four Ducks goals in the first round came on this type of play, so it will be interesting to see if Vegas attacks from below the goal line with one timers and quick shots, which accounted for 48 percent of the tracked goals on Jones this season.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Duncan Ferguson » 24 Abr 2018, 14:15

¿Hellegod no es el que hace lo de los ojitos en el calentamiento?

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Portilol » 24 Abr 2018, 17:43

:D :-?
oi!R escribió:Y luego nos llaman fachas a los del HORMCF cuando siempre socializamos a nuestros anormales con el resto del floro.

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 26 Abr 2018, 09:59

Un aplauso a los Young Lefillas que incluso entraron ganando el 3er periodo y ya no pudieron hacer nada ante el vendaval Bruinoso en modo remontada. Esta noche comienza la 2ª ronda con el Caps vs Penguins y Caballeros Dorados vs Tiburones.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Duncan Ferguson » 26 Abr 2018, 14:47

Qué guerra han dado los Lefas toda la serie, jodiendo siempre a la contra pero peleando hasta que les metieron el 4-6, no bajaban los brazos.

He visto tres partidos de la serie (uno de los dos primeros en Boston, el cuarto en Toronto y este último, creo) y Auston Matthews ha estado bastante desaparecido en combate.

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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por RAKSO 54 » 26 Abr 2018, 15:33

Duncan Ferguson escribió:He visto tres partidos de la serie (uno de los dos primeros en Boston, el cuarto en Toronto y este último, creo) y Auston Matthews ha estado bastante desaparecido en combate.
Entre las caritas y actuaciones discretas a CR Auston le van a pasar en la Liga Pepino Laine y a la espera de Nico Suïssa, Eichel, Patrick Nolan Patrick, Keller, Boeser, Pastarnak, DeBrusk, Debrincat, Dubois, etc.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por henrykpueb » 26 Abr 2018, 15:49

Ooooooooooooooootra vez. 8-2 en histórico de Game 1 vs Craps, sin Malkin, sin Hagelin pero...JUST PLAY! Parece que éste si que tiene que ser su año en el que nos ganan, pero confio.
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Re: HO NHL 2017-2018

por Duncan Ferguson » 26 Abr 2018, 15:51

Es que le va a pasar hasta Mitch Marner, no te tienes que ir más lejos en esta eliminatoria contra los Osos. Y eso que no cuento a Marleau, al que le doy un plus que no tiene Matthews por tener el culo pelado.

El caso es que ha metido un carro de goles en la regular a pesar de unos cuantos partidos lesionados. Pero ahora mismo hasta Nolan Patrick Nolan me da más sensación de que va a coger el puck y va a abrir un surco en el hielo con su enorme pene, como la que da McDavid, sin ir más lejos (aunque luego no lo hagan o se tropiecen o la manden a Arizona, me entendéis).

Al final, estoy empezando a pensar que aquel artículo de la ESPN que hablaba de traspasarlo no iba descaminado.

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