Pero tío , no ves que me has puesto un live dándome la razón , mira que habrá mas de un partido gordo donde hayamos conservado ventaja ,besx escribió:No, los títulos no tienen nada que ver. Los partidos en los que se ganan sí.Tikonenko escribió:WTF, Pero que coño tiene que ver irse al ultimo cuarto con 8 o 10 puntos de ventaja , y perder toda o casi toda la ventaja , con ganar euroligas o ligas ACB , por dios bendito.besx escribió:
A mí me pasa lo mismo. No sé qué le ha pasado a mi tele, que se ha empeñado en sacarme a unos tíos de blanco que han ganado la FF y la ACB concediendo una sola derrota en playoff diciéndome que era el Madrid. Y claro, viendo partidos que no son es muy difícil sacar conclusiones.
Toma, el play by play del último cuarto de la final de EL. Dime que no gestionaron la ventaja (o igual es que como entraron con ventaja de 8 en el último cuarto la ventaja no debía haber bajado de ahí porque somos dioses que pueden hacer lo que les da la gana con el rival):
(En la web de la EL lo tienes más limpito por si quieres verlo mejor: http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/ ... playbyplay)
Begin Period 63 - 55
10:00 RANDOLPH, ANTHONY Out 63 - 55
10:00 FERNANDEZ, RUDY Out 63 - 55
10:00 DONCIC, LUKA In 63 - 55
10:00 CAMPAZZO, FACUNDO Out 63 - 55
10:00 TAVARES, WALTER In 63 - 55
10:00 LLULL, SERGIO In 63 - 55
10:00 63 - 55 WANAMAKER, BRAD Out
10:00 63 - 55 MUHAMMED, ALI In
09:50 63 - 55 DATOME, LUIGI Missed Three Pointer (0/2 - 4 pt)
09:49 TAVARES, WALTER Def Rebound (1) 63 - 55
09:31 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Turnover (1) 63 - 55
09:21 LLULL, SERGIO Foul (3) 63 - 55
09:21 63 - 55 MUHAMMED, ALI Foul Drawn (5)
09:13 LLULL, SERGIO Foul (4) 63 - 55
09:13 63 - 55 MUHAMMED, ALI Foul Drawn (6)
09:13 CARROLL, JAYCEE In 63 - 55
09:13 LLULL, SERGIO Out 63 - 55
09:06 63 - 57 MELLI, NICOLO Two Pointer (6/8 - 18 pt)
09:06 TAVARES, WALTER Assist (1) 63 - 57
09:06 TAVARES, WALTER Foul (2) 63 - 57
09:06 63 - 57 MELLI, NICOLO Foul Drawn (3)
09:06 63 - 58 MELLI, NICOLO Free Throw In (1/1 - 19 pt)
08:47 63 - 58 DATOME, LUIGI Foul (1)
08:47 THOMPKINS, TREY Foul Drawn (2) 63 - 58
08:47 THOMPKINS, TREY Free Throw In (1/1 - 3 pt) 64 - 58
08:47 THOMPKINS, TREY Free Throw In (2/2 - 4 pt) 65 - 58
08:30 65 - 58 KALINIC, NIKOLA Missed Three Pointer (1/3 - 7 pt)
08:29 DONCIC, LUKA Def Rebound (3) 65 - 58
08:21 65 - 58 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Foul (1)
08:21 DONCIC, LUKA Foul Drawn (3) 65 - 58
08:21 DONCIC, LUKA Missed Free Throw (2/3 - 9 pt) 65 - 58
08:21 DONCIC, LUKA Free Throw In (3/4 - 10 pt) 66 - 58
08:11 66 - 58 MUHAMMED, ALI Missed Three Pointer (0/1 - 2 pt)
08:09 66 - 58 KALINIC, NIKOLA Off Rebound (1)
08:01 66 - 61 MELLI, NICOLO Three Pointer (3/4 - 22 pt)
08:01 66 - 61 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Assist (4)
07:36 66 - 61 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Foul (2)
07:36 TAVARES, WALTER Foul Drawn (2) 66 - 61
07:36 66 - 61 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Out
07:36 66 - 61 VESELY, JAN In
07:31 CARROLL, JAYCEE Missed Three Pointer (1/3 - 5 pt) 66 - 61
07:31 66 - 61 Def Rebound (5)
07:09 66 - 61 VESELY, JAN Missed Two Pointer (1/3 - 3 pt)
07:08 TAVARES, WALTER Def Rebound (2) 66 - 61
06:47 66 - 61 DATOME, LUIGI Foul (2)
06:47 DONCIC, LUKA Foul Drawn (4) 66 - 61
06:47 66 - 61 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS In
06:47 66 - 61 DATOME, LUIGI Out
06:38 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Missed Two Pointer (1/3 - 15 pt) 66 - 61
06:37 66 - 61 MELLI, NICOLO Def Rebound (3)
06:24 66 - 61 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Missed Three Pointer (1/3 - 7 pt)
06:23 TAVARES, WALTER Def Rebound (3) 66 - 61
06:17 66 - 61 VESELY, JAN Unsportsmanlike Foul (4)
06:17 DONCIC, LUKA Foul Drawn (5) 66 - 61
06:17 DONCIC, LUKA Free Throw In (4/5 - 11 pt) 67 - 61
06:17 DONCIC, LUKA Free Throw In (5/6 - 12 pt) 68 - 61
06:17 68 - 61 WANAMAKER, BRAD In
06:17 68 - 61 MUHAMMED, ALI Out
06:03 CARROLL, JAYCEE Three Pointer (2/4 - 8 pt) 71 - 61
06:03 TAVARES, WALTER Assist (2) 71 - 61
06:00 71 - 61 Time Out (1)
06:00 71 - 61 KALINIC, NIKOLA Out
06:00 71 - 61 DATOME, LUIGI In
05:45 TAVARES, WALTER Foul (3) 71 - 61
05:45 71 - 61 WANAMAKER, BRAD Foul Drawn (7)
05:45 71 - 62 WANAMAKER, BRAD Free Throw In (5/6 - 9 pt)
05:45 71 - 63 WANAMAKER, BRAD Free Throw In (6/7 - 10 pt)
05:27 THOMPKINS, TREY Missed Three Pointer (0/1 - 4 pt) 71 - 63
05:25 TAVARES, WALTER Off Rebound (2) 71 - 63
05:10 DONCIC, LUKA Missed Three Pointer (1/4 - 12 pt) 71 - 63
05:05 THOMPKINS, TREY Off Rebound (1) 71 - 63
05:05 71 - 63 DATOME, LUIGI Foul (3)
05:05 THOMPKINS, TREY Foul Drawn (3) 71 - 63
05:05 THOMPKINS, TREY Free Throw In (3/3 - 5 pt) 72 - 63
05:05 THOMPKINS, TREY Free Throw In (4/4 - 6 pt) 73 - 63
04:46 73 - 63 MELLI, NICOLO Missed Two Pointer (6/9 - 22 pt)
04:45 73 - 63 VESELY, JAN Off Rebound (3)
04:45 73 - 63 VESELY, JAN Missed Two Pointer (1/4 - 3 pt)
04:39 THOMPKINS, TREY Def Rebound (2) 73 - 63
04:26 73 - 63 WANAMAKER, BRAD Foul (1)
04:26 DONCIC, LUKA Foul Drawn (6) 73 - 63
04:26 DONCIC, LUKA Free Throw In (6/7 - 13 pt) 74 - 63
04:26 DONCIC, LUKA Missed Free Throw (6/8 - 13 pt) 74 - 63
04:25 74 - 63 MELLI, NICOLO Def Rebound (4)
04:10 74 - 66 MELLI, NICOLO Three Pointer (4/5 - 25 pt)
04:10 74 - 66 VESELY, JAN Assist (2)
03:40 CARROLL, JAYCEE Missed Three Pointer (2/5 - 8 pt) 74 - 66
03:39 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Off Rebound (1) 74 - 66
03:24 Time Out (1) 74 - 66
03:24 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Out 74 - 66
03:24 LLULL, SERGIO In 74 - 66
03:21 LLULL, SERGIO Missed Three Pointer (1/3 - 5 pt) 74 - 66
03:18 74 - 66 MELLI, NICOLO Def Rebound (5)
03:01 74 - 66 MELLI, NICOLO Turnover (2)
02:59 THOMPKINS, TREY Steal (1) 74 - 66
02:41 LLULL, SERGIO Offensive Foul (5) 74 - 66
02:41 LLULL, SERGIO Turnover (1) 74 - 66
02:41 74 - 66 WANAMAKER, BRAD Foul Drawn (8)
02:41 CAUSEUR, FABIEN In 74 - 66
02:41 LLULL, SERGIO Out 74 - 66
02:41 74 - 66 VESELY, JAN Out
02:41 74 - 66 MUHAMMED, ALI In
02:35 74 - 66 MELLI, NICOLO Missed Three Pointer (4/6 - 25 pt)
02:31 74 - 66 MUHAMMED, ALI Off Rebound (1)
02:22 TAVARES, WALTER Foul (4) 74 - 66
02:22 74 - 66 MELLI, NICOLO Foul Drawn (4)
02:22 74 - 67 MELLI, NICOLO Free Throw In (2/2 - 26 pt)
02:22 74 - 67 WANAMAKER, BRAD Assist (4)
02:22 74 - 67 MELLI, NICOLO Missed Free Throw (2/3 - 26 pt)
02:20 74 - 67 Off Rebound (5)
02:08 74 - 69 MUHAMMED, ALI Two Pointer (1/1 - 4 pt)
01:50 74 - 69 MELLI, NICOLO Foul (4)
01:50 TAVARES, WALTER Foul Drawn (3) 74 - 69
01:50 TAVARES, WALTER Free Throw In (1/1 - 7 pt) 75 - 69
01:50 THOMPKINS, TREY Assist (1) 75 - 69
01:50 TAVARES, WALTER Free Throw In (2/2 - 8 pt) 76 - 69
01:50 TAVARES, WALTER Out 76 - 69
01:50 TAYLOR, JEFFERY In 76 - 69
01:50 76 - 69 Time Out (2)
01:45 DONCIC, LUKA Block (1) 76 - 69
01:45 76 - 69 WANAMAKER, BRAD Missed Two Pointer (2/6 - 10 pt)
01:45 76 - 69 WANAMAKER, BRAD Shot Rejected (2)
01:43 76 - 69 WANAMAKER, BRAD Off Rebound (3)
01:40 76 - 69 WANAMAKER, BRAD Missed Two Pointer (2/7 - 10 pt)
01:40 THOMPKINS, TREY Def Rebound (3) 76 - 69
01:40 76 - 69 DATOME, LUIGI Foul (4)
01:40 THOMPKINS, TREY Foul Drawn (4) 76 - 69
01:40 THOMPKINS, TREY Free Throw In (5/5 - 7 pt) 77 - 69
01:40 THOMPKINS, TREY Free Throw In (6/6 - 8 pt) 78 - 69
01:30 78 - 71 DATOME, LUIGI Two Pointer (2/2 - 6 pt)
01:23 78 - 71 MUHAMMED, ALI Foul (1)
01:23 DONCIC, LUKA Foul Drawn (7) 78 - 71
01:23 DONCIC, LUKA Free Throw In (7/9 - 14 pt) 79 - 71
01:23 DONCIC, LUKA Free Throw In (8/10 - 15 pt) 80 - 71
01:17 80 - 71 MUHAMMED, ALI Missed Three Pointer (0/2 - 4 pt)
01:16 TAYLOR, JEFFERY Def Rebound (1) 80 - 71
01:07 CARROLL, JAYCEE Turnover (1) 80 - 71
01:07 80 - 71 MUHAMMED, ALI Steal (1)
01:04 DONCIC, LUKA Foul (4) 80 - 71
01:04 80 - 71 WANAMAKER, BRAD Foul Drawn (9)
01:04 80 - 71 VESELY, JAN In
01:04 80 - 71 DATOME, LUIGI Out
01:04 RANDOLPH, ANTHONY In 80 - 71
01:04 TAYLOR, JEFFERY Out 80 - 71
01:04 80 - 72 WANAMAKER, BRAD Free Throw In (7/8 - 11 pt)
01:04 80 - 72 MUHAMMED, ALI Assist (1)
01:04 80 - 73 WANAMAKER, BRAD Free Throw In (8/9 - 12 pt)
00:42 DONCIC, LUKA Turnover (2) 80 - 73
00:42 80 - 73 WANAMAKER, BRAD Steal (3)
00:38 DONCIC, LUKA Foul (5) 80 - 73
00:38 80 - 73 WANAMAKER, BRAD Foul Drawn (10)
00:38 DONCIC, LUKA Out 80 - 73
00:38 CAMPAZZO, FACUNDO In 80 - 73
00:38 80 - 74 WANAMAKER, BRAD Free Throw In (9/10 - 13 pt)
00:38 80 - 75 WANAMAKER, BRAD Free Throw In (10/11 - 14 pt)
00:38 Time Out (2) 80 - 75
00:38 RANDOLPH, ANTHONY Out 80 - 75
00:38 FERNANDEZ, RUDY In 80 - 75
00:32 80 - 75 VESELY, JAN Foul (5)
00:32 CARROLL, JAYCEE Foul Drawn (1) 80 - 75
00:32 80 - 75 VESELY, JAN Out
00:32 80 - 75 DATOME, LUIGI In
00:32 CARROLL, JAYCEE Free Throw In (1/1 - 9 pt) 81 - 75
00:32 CARROLL, JAYCEE Missed Free Throw (1/2 - 9 pt) 81 - 75
00:32 81 - 75 DATOME, LUIGI Def Rebound (2)
00:24 81 - 78 MUHAMMED, ALI Three Pointer (1/3 - 7 pt)
00:24 81 - 78 WANAMAKER, BRAD Assist (5)
00:22 Time Out (3) 81 - 78
00:22 81 - 78 KALINIC, NIKOLA In
00:22 81 - 78 DATOME, LUIGI Out
00:18 81 - 78 WANAMAKER, BRAD Foul (2)
00:18 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Foul Drawn (3) 81 - 78
00:18 CARROLL, JAYCEE Out 81 - 78
00:18 TAYLOR, JEFFERY In 81 - 78
00:18 81 - 78 KALINIC, NIKOLA Out
00:18 81 - 78 DATOME, LUIGI In
00:18 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Missed Free Throw (4/5 - 15 pt) 81 - 78
00:18 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Missed Free Throw (4/6 - 15 pt) 81 - 78
00:18 THOMPKINS, TREY Off Rebound (2) 81 - 78
00:18 THOMPKINS, TREY Two Pointer (2/2 - 10 pt) 83 - 78
00:18 83 - 78 Time Out (3)
00:14 83 - 80 MELLI, NICOLO Two Pointer (7/10 - 28 pt)
00:12 83 - 80 DATOME, LUIGI Foul (5)
00:12 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Foul Drawn (4) 83 - 80
00:12 83 - 80 KALINIC, NIKOLA In
00:12 83 - 80 DATOME, LUIGI Out
00:12 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Free Throw In (5/7 - 16 pt) 84 - 80
00:12 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Free Throw In (6/8 - 17 pt) 85 - 80
00:04 CAUSEUR, FABIEN Block (1) 85 - 80
00:04 85 - 80 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Missed Two Pointer (2/3 - 7 pt)
00:04 85 - 80 SLOUKAS, KOSTAS Shot Rejected (1)
00:04 FERNANDEZ, RUDY Def Rebound (5) 85 - 80
End Game 85 - 80
el tema es la frecuencia con la que nos pasa, que es de lo que hablo por mucho que al final se vaya el tema por los cerros de Ubeda , y de la situación en la que te encuentras repetidamente y la necesidad de tener varios jugadores que ya sea por huevos , calidad , o condiciones llámense X , te proporcione un % mucho mayor que el rival de ganar ese final igualado ,
y finalmente de lo que va realmente el asunto , de si sustituyes un nº1 con un nº3 (pon el numero que te de la gana) o un nº1 con otro nº1, el resto son ganas de enredar y poner puntos sobre las w.
pd: en una final de este nivel el tema es ganar , como cojones sea ,