We don’t know how the contract is structured yet, but Gasol will get on average $16 million dollars a year. He recently turned 37 and, while he’s still a quality rotation piece, he’s been showing signs of decline for a while. Paying him 16 percent of the cap is just bad business.
So why did the Spurs do it? Does it kill their chances of making a big splash in next year’s free agency? Let’s take a closer look
Pau was probably willing to take less, but now he has no reason to do that
Gasol was expected to pick up his player option for the upcoming season, worth a little over $16 million. There’s no way he was getting that money in the free agent market. He reportedly opted out to re-structure his contract to help the Spurs. He was expected to take more guaranteed money but spread out over more years. By lowering the cap hit for 2017/18, the Spurs were making it more likely to stay under the luxury tax while bringing everyone back and adding a piece with the mid-level exception.
They needed that potential wiggle room if that was the plan. With Rudy Gay’s and Patty Mills’ new contracts on the books, they had $95 million in committed salary. Had they matched an offer sheet on Jonathon Simmons, they would have had $103 million in committed salary. That’s not counting Pau’s or Manu Ginobili’s new contract or the bi-annual exception. The tax line was set at $119 million. It was going to be tight, and under those circumstances, Pau’s contract would have likely been smaller.
But things changed dramatically when Jonathon Simmons left in free agency. That probably wasn’t part of the plan. If it was, then there was no reason to talk Pau into opting out. Even with Pau’s $16.2 million from his old contract on the books, the Spurs would have still been eight million below the tax line. That would have left room for a decent contract for Manu and would have given the Spurs extra cap space next season, as Pau became a free agent.
So Gasol was probably willing to take a smaller contract if it helped the team stay under the tax line this season. Once Simmons was gone, he didn’t have to be a discount. Without resources to get a replacement — and having likely promised him to give him as much as they could — San Antonio signed him to this new deal.
The Spurs could still have a ton of cap space next offseason
If we only consider 2017-18, Pau’s contract is not a problem. Sure, it’s bad, but it didn’t cost the Spurs another player. They didn’t spend cap space or an exception they could have used on free agents. It only makes their payroll bigger this season, which only truly concerns Peter Holt.
The problem is that it’s a multiyear deal, and it could have negative repercussions in the future. Whether it does depends on other factors. What’s actually going to determine how much cap space the Spurs will have in the summer of 2018 will be the decisions made by the teammates who have player options. Danny Green, Rudy Gay and LaMarcus Aldridge combine for $41 million in salary. If they opt out and are renounced, along with some other minor free agents, the Spurs could have max cap room regardless of Pau’s contract. It would depend on Tony Parker’s next contract, but there’s a solid chance the Spurs have already talked to him about taking less money so they can bring in reinforcements.
How this season goes will determine whether those three guys opt in or not. Aldridge, slated to make $22 million in 2018-19, is not is not likely to get more in free agency. But he might get a long-term deal. And if reports are accurate, he might be ready to leave San Antonio. Danny Green should be able to secure a better contract, even in a buyer’s market. He’s currently a bargain at $10 million a year. If Rudy Gay shows he’s healthy and effective, he’ll likely opt out, too.
Pau’s new contract would become a real problem if only one or two of those guys opt out, instead of all three. But we knew all along that Gasol was coming back. He’s making a few million more than everyone thought he would, but it was unrealistic to expect him to opt out only to take a single-year deal. It’s obviously not ideal to have him on the books for $16 million season after this, but the Spurs could always waive and stretch his salary to make room. His contract is not likely going to determine whether the Spurs sign a star or not.
It’s still a bad deal, just not as bad as it seemed at first
To make it perfectly clear, Gasol’s contract is bad. The Spurs are taking care of someone who very likely was willing to sacrifice for the good of the team while not completely mortgaging their future. That still doesn’t change the fact that — assuming they were willing to lose Simmons — they would have been better off with Pau opting in. The numbers on Gasol’s new contract aren’t as concerning as the fact that the front office seems to have misread how the offseason would play out.
After a closer look, however, this is not as apocalyptic a development as it might have seemed when the news hit. Next season the Spurs will once again have a competitive team, a reputation as player-friendly franchise and the tools to reload down the line.
garba4ever escribió:Estoikov escribió:garba4ever escribió:
Los Spurs dentro de 2 años máximo van a tener que reinventarse sin Ginobili, Parker (que estaba dando su mejor nivel en mucho tiempo) y en principio tampoco Gasol (que si ya está empezando -lentamente- su declive, en 2 años no quiero saber cómo estará), y precisamente en esos planes de futuro no veo hueco a Pau.
garba4ever escribió:Estoikov escribió:garba4ever escribió:Yo esperaba un 16x2 y dando las gracias. Espero que esto no joda mucho a Spurs a medio plazo, pero a falta de ver cómo se cierra la plantilla, y sin ser un desastre, han ocurrido muchos movimientos muy extraños para ser SA.
Ni tanto, ni tan calvo, si no me equivoco tenía una PO de 16 kilos para la temporada que viene.
De la que se salió para en principio firmar un contrato por más años (se esperaban 2) y menos dinero (se esperaba más o menos el dinero de 1 año repartido en 2).
Han puesto antes un artículo diciendo que más o menos lo explica. Sigo sin estar de acuerdo, aunque dice alguna cosa interesante. Yo un año por Gasol a 16M lo pago, porque total, en la FA no vas a encontrar nada mejor. Pero 3 años, aunque tampoco hipoteca la franquicia, es un contrato totalmente innecesario.
Los Spurs dentro de 2 años máximo van a tener que reinventarse sin Ginobili, Parker (que estaba dando su mejor nivel en mucho tiempo) y en principio tampoco Gasol (que si ya está empezando -lentamente- su declive, en 2 años no quiero saber cómo estará), y precisamente en esos planes de futuro no veo hueco a Pau.
101 escribió:Exactamente. Se salió para dar al club más capacidad de maniobra en la agencia libre. No es un buen contrato, pero no necesariamente nos va aperjudicar en un futuro:We don’t know how the contract is structured yet, but Gasol will get on average $16 million dollars a year. He recently turned 37 and, while he’s still a quality rotation piece, he’s been showing signs of decline for a while. Paying him 16 percent of the cap is just bad business.
So why did the Spurs do it? Does it kill their chances of making a big splash in next year’s free agency? Let’s take a closer look
Pau was probably willing to take less, but now he has no reason to do that
Gasol was expected to pick up his player option for the upcoming season, worth a little over $16 million. There’s no way he was getting that money in the free agent market. He reportedly opted out to re-structure his contract to help the Spurs. He was expected to take more guaranteed money but spread out over more years. By lowering the cap hit for 2017/18, the Spurs were making it more likely to stay under the luxury tax while bringing everyone back and adding a piece with the mid-level exception.
They needed that potential wiggle room if that was the plan. With Rudy Gay’s and Patty Mills’ new contracts on the books, they had $95 million in committed salary. Had they matched an offer sheet on Jonathon Simmons, they would have had $103 million in committed salary. That’s not counting Pau’s or Manu Ginobili’s new contract or the bi-annual exception. The tax line was set at $119 million. It was going to be tight, and under those circumstances, Pau’s contract would have likely been smaller.
But things changed dramatically when Jonathon Simmons left in free agency. That probably wasn’t part of the plan. If it was, then there was no reason to talk Pau into opting out. Even with Pau’s $16.2 million from his old contract on the books, the Spurs would have still been eight million below the tax line. That would have left room for a decent contract for Manu and would have given the Spurs extra cap space next season, as Pau became a free agent.
So Gasol was probably willing to take a smaller contract if it helped the team stay under the tax line this season. Once Simmons was gone, he didn’t have to be a discount. Without resources to get a replacement — and having likely promised him to give him as much as they could — San Antonio signed him to this new deal.
The Spurs could still have a ton of cap space next offseason
If we only consider 2017-18, Pau’s contract is not a problem. Sure, it’s bad, but it didn’t cost the Spurs another player. They didn’t spend cap space or an exception they could have used on free agents. It only makes their payroll bigger this season, which only truly concerns Peter Holt.
The problem is that it’s a multiyear deal, and it could have negative repercussions in the future. Whether it does depends on other factors. What’s actually going to determine how much cap space the Spurs will have in the summer of 2018 will be the decisions made by the teammates who have player options. Danny Green, Rudy Gay and LaMarcus Aldridge combine for $41 million in salary. If they opt out and are renounced, along with some other minor free agents, the Spurs could have max cap room regardless of Pau’s contract. It would depend on Tony Parker’s next contract, but there’s a solid chance the Spurs have already talked to him about taking less money so they can bring in reinforcements.
How this season goes will determine whether those three guys opt in or not. Aldridge, slated to make $22 million in 2018-19, is not is not likely to get more in free agency. But he might get a long-term deal. And if reports are accurate, he might be ready to leave San Antonio. Danny Green should be able to secure a better contract, even in a buyer’s market. He’s currently a bargain at $10 million a year. If Rudy Gay shows he’s healthy and effective, he’ll likely opt out, too.
Pau’s new contract would become a real problem if only one or two of those guys opt out, instead of all three. But we knew all along that Gasol was coming back. He’s making a few million more than everyone thought he would, but it was unrealistic to expect him to opt out only to take a single-year deal. It’s obviously not ideal to have him on the books for $16 million season after this, but the Spurs could always waive and stretch his salary to make room. His contract is not likely going to determine whether the Spurs sign a star or not.
It’s still a bad deal, just not as bad as it seemed at first
To make it perfectly clear, Gasol’s contract is bad. The Spurs are taking care of someone who very likely was willing to sacrifice for the good of the team while not completely mortgaging their future. That still doesn’t change the fact that — assuming they were willing to lose Simmons — they would have been better off with Pau opting in. The numbers on Gasol’s new contract aren’t as concerning as the fact that the front office seems to have misread how the offseason would play out.
After a closer look, however, this is not as apocalyptic a development as it might have seemed when the news hit. Next season the Spurs will once again have a competitive team, a reputation as player-friendly franchise and the tools to reload down the line.
Most opponents would gladly trade places with San Antonio, even after this seemingly bad offseason.garba4ever escribió:Estoikov escribió:
Tampoco diría tanto como eso, ya son jugadores para ayudar desde el banquillo pero no los que nos llevan a ganar 60 victorias o las que sean, Manu y Parker con la lesion, Y Parker veremos como llega y a que nivel. En esta franquicia por, suerte o por desgracia, nos gusta mantener a nuestros jugadores emblemáticos hasta el final. Para mí suerte porque si hubiéramos desmantelado no tendríamos el equipo de ahora ni el anillo del 2014. TD, Gino, y Parker Han tenido contratos a lo largo de su carrera por debajo que lo que podrían, después son correspondidos, la franquicia tiene una reputación de franquicia amigable para con sus estrellas. Que no ha ido mal, ni es lo común en la NBA dicho de paso.
thewall escribió:Se confía en el bloque que llegó a finales de conferencia y que estaba compitiendo genial ante Warriors hasta la lesion de Leonard.
Se prescinde de Desmond que fue injugable en PO para Pops y se mejora a Simmons con Gay.(a poco que vuelve medio bien es superior)
Visto así no es tan disparate porque no va a afectar mucho si la idea era tirar con el bloque sin tocar mucho.
ManiacRR escribió:La MLE de 8.4 kilos no? Te recuerdo que a cogido 14x2 de Atlanta, son 7 kilos al año. Entra DENTRO de la MLE.
Niou escribió:ManiacRR escribió:La MLE de 8.4 kilos no? Te recuerdo que a cogido 14x2 de Atlanta, son 7 kilos al año. Entra DENTRO de la MLE.
Ya lo se.
Pero prefiero jugármela con Rudy Gay.
ManiacRR escribió:Pues entonces cojo, me callo, me la embaino y Simmons que haga lo que quiera.
Para mi, me parece una perdida MALA para el equipo, igual que Dedmon. AHORA, no tengo nada que reprocharle a San Antonio tampoco en ese sentido, vaya.
ManiacRR escribió:No le quites la QO e iguala lo de Orlando, mira que simple. O si no le hacen oferta, que juegue 1 año por la QO y luego si se va pues se va.
garba4ever escribió:Estoikov escribió:garba4ever escribió:Yo esperaba un 16x2 y dando las gracias. Espero que esto no joda mucho a Spurs a medio plazo, pero a falta de ver cómo se cierra la plantilla, y sin ser un desastre, han ocurrido muchos movimientos muy extraños para ser SA.
Ni tanto, ni tan calvo, si no me equivoco tenía una PO de 16 kilos para la temporada que viene.
De la que se salió para en principio firmar un contrato por más años (se esperaban 2) y menos dinero (se esperaba más o menos el dinero de 1 año repartido en 2).
ravens escribió:Yo lo que no creo es que Pau vaya a jugar 3 años mas. Ni de coña.
garba4ever escribió:Pues qué queréis que os diga, que Rudy Gay me parezca el mejor movimiento del verano me parece que lo dice todo.
Muy muy muy mal tenían que llevarse Simmons y Popovic para no haber seguido con él por 7M. El puesto de base lo veo cojo (una pena no haber conseguido a Paul), lo de Gasol ni lo comento, y creo que habría molado intentar un traspaso por Aldrige, visto su nivel, que no parece muy contento en el equipo, y que aún se puede sacar algo por él.
De todas maneras Buford todavía puede intentar un Aldrige + invitar a cenar al GM de Cleveland todo el año x Irving, y lo perdono todo.
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