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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por John HavlicekI7 » 02 May 2013, 12:08

Pues yo, si es entre esos dos, me quedo con Malone. A Shaw lo veo más para un equipo hecho, mecanizado y que él aporte su experiencia. En cambio Malone, con su fama defensiva, me parece que es la pieza adecuada para construir una franquicia desde 0. Y ahora por lo visto también habría que contar con el ex-sixer Hornacek para el banquillo, que se va a entrevistar con la franquicia. La verdad es que no conozco sus preferencias de juego como entrenador. Dos años ha estado de asistente en Utah.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por Bias » 02 May 2013, 14:48

Yo no se la razon pero a mi Malone me da una mala espina total.

Hornacek no tiene buena fama tampoco por su pasado por aqui, ya he visto aficionados rajando de el.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por John HavlicekI7 » 02 May 2013, 17:02

Bias escribió:Yo no se la razon pero a mi Malone me da una mala espina total.

Hornacek no tiene buena fama tampoco por su pasado por aqui, ya he visto aficionados rajando de el.

Con Malone igual hay suerte y nos toca un Tom Thibodeau, y en el peor de los casos, no creo que lo pasemos peor que con Eddie Jordan.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por DrJ6 » 06 May 2013, 20:53

Acabo de llegar al foro pero, si me lo permitís, yo opino que Malone nos vendría bien (en todo caso jamás peor que lo conocido) y que dar a Turner por Mayo es una locura y ganas de cambiar fichas: más de lo mismo pero elevado al cuadrado, la irregularidad hecha jugador.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por Illmatic » 06 May 2013, 22:38

Alguien sabe cuando salen las entradas para Bilbao?
Alguien va a ir?
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por Bias » 07 May 2013, 11:36

It's too early to identify a front-runner in the Sixers' search for a new head coach, but the team has conducted a thorough background check on Golden State assistant Mike Malone, league sources told CBSSports.com.

Sixers brass have contacted the Warriors multiple times about Malone, including several conversations with consultant Jerry West, who has been supportive of Malone's efforts to land a head coaching job. The Sixers have gone so far as to consult players who've played under both Malone and San Antonio assistant Mike Budenholzer to get a feel for how the candidates differ, one of the people with knowledge of the situation said.

Malone, the strategic backbone of Golden State's run to the conference semifinals against the Spurs, also has served as an assistant for the Hornets, Cavaliers and Knicks.

So far, the Sixers plan to interview Malone and Jazz assistant Jeff Hornacek for the job vacated when Doug Collins stepped down and moved into an advisory role after the season. The organization also has shown interest in Budenholzer, who has interviewed for the Pistons opening, as did former Trail Blazers coach Nate McMillan and Suns interim coach Lindsey Hunter.

To the surprise of some rival executives, the Sixers' coaching search is being spearheaded by GM Tony DiLeo, whose contract expires this summer. With team president Rod Thorn moving into a consulting role and DiLeo's contract expiring, rival execs expect the Sixers to engage in a search for a new head of basketball operations, as well. In fact, that process has already begun through back-channel conversations, one person contacted on the Sixers' behalf told CBSSports.com.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por JCrossover » 07 May 2013, 13:15

Illmatic escribió:Alguien sabe cuando salen las entradas para Bilbao?
Alguien va a ir?


Yo voy Illmatic, y según "El correo" salen a la venta la segunda quincena de mayo, habrá que estar atento.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Jrue All Star Holiday

por Bias » 10 May 2013, 23:11

Notición

Adrian Wojnarowski: Hinkie will replace Tony DiLeo w/ Philadelphia. With president Rod Thorn's pending retirement, Hinkie will be top basketball decision maker

Bob Cooney: Hinkie deal is for multiple years, maybe 3 or 4, according to sources. He was high, if not at the top, of owner Josh Harris' list.

Jonathan Feigen: Hinkie played huge role for Daryl Morey in Rockets decision-making, cap moves, analytics along with Gersson Rosas. Will be tough to replace.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Bias » 11 May 2013, 00:14

By Henry Abbott
ESPN.com

The Philadelphia 76ers have hired former Rockets second-in-command Sam Hinkie as their new general manager.

Hinkie is a highly regarded behind-the-scenes NBA mind who has put in the work on every front, from mastering the nitty gritty of the CBA to traveling the backwaters of the globe scouting prospects. He has been a key figure in building Houston's analyst-thick Moneyball-style front office that has cleverly created advantages for itself -- figuring out how to win the James Harden sweepstakes was just one example. Using innovative contract structure trickery to haul in Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik through free agency offers other teams couldn't match were others.

Some teams shoot from the hip. Rest assured, under Hinkie, the Sixers will adhere to well-honed long-term strategy. Assuming Hinkie is empowered to follow his principled approach, it would make no sense to bet against them as they wrestle with big decisions like who to hire as head coach, and whether or not to retain the injured Andrew Bynum.

Effectively out of the loop, according to ESPN's Brian Windhorst, are the likes of Rod Thorn, Tony Dileo and Doug Collins.

It's tough to say if this is a departure for the 76ers, or a return to the direction the franchise was headed in when Joshua Harris bought the team in 2011.



When a bundle of smart-guy Wall Streeters -- Josh Harris, Dave Blitzer, Art Wrubel and company -- bought the team in the summer of 2011, many thought Collins' days were numbered. It was assumed the Sixers would, in modern Wall Street-style, become the Rockets East, using analytics to drive every little decision.

The guess was that the traditional hoops heads in the building -- Collins, Rod Thorn -- were on the way out, sooner or later, likely to be replaced by the ownership group's ready-made candidate, former player-agent Jason Levien, and his handpicked coaches and front-office people. The other key decision-maker, Ed Stefanski, didn't even wait for the other shoe to drop and took the first good job somewhere else, in Toronto.

Change was coming, sooner or later.

The traditional hoops people hung around, though. Most still had contracts, and it's not popular for new owners to clean house immediately. There's an element of paying your respects to how things have long been done.

Before the new owners could reorganize, Collins led a low-expectations team into the playoffs (barely) as an eighth seed. Bulls star Derrick Rose tore his ACL in that series (as you may have heard). And then Joakim Noah got hurt too, alternating between missing time and playing badly hurt. The Bulls are known as the team whose spirit can not be crushed, but in that series, they were broken. The Sixers became that rare eighth seed that beats a one -- and then they darn near repeated the accomplishment in the next round, taking the Celtics to a seventh game before bowing out.

It was plain to see, in the bowels of the arena during that playoff run, that the new owners -- in person and with all kinds of family in tow in the locker room, in the stands, in the press conferences, in the private club upstairs with VIP guests -- were falling head-over-heels for Collins. He knew it too. The team was winning. So soon! The giddiness was all around, and everyone smiled when Collins declared he was a "Sixer for life."

Not that long ago then-coach Collins was the de facto king of the Sixers organization. The city was lukewarm on the players, but tune into sports radio in the City of Brotherly Love in the summer of 2012, and nobody agreed on much -- it's Philly, after all -- but they agreed Collins was the center of the 76er universe.

Thorn was never expected to stay forever. As the apple of the owners' eyes, Collins was either going to be Thorn's de facto replacement, or the guy who made his actual replacement's job almost impossible to do. Whatever Doug wanted would matter. And he tended to want all kinds of things. He was hot and cold on young talents like Evan Turner, and his idea of a great free-agent signing was the perpetually disappointing center Kwame Brown, who was brought in with the theory he had the right kind of body to protect the paint, but has a block percentage worse than some guards.

The new owners interviewed a string of GM candidates in the summer of 2012, including smart up-and-comers Hinkie, the Celtics' highly respected assistant GM Mike Zarren, former Portland assistant GM Tom Penn and others. But they ended up hiring 76ers lifer Tony DiLeo (he has been with the team since 1990, in almost every position imaginable). Sources say he was the choice in part because he was the candidate who could operate in Collins' outsized shadow. For innovators like Hinkie, there would be little chance to succeed with Collins around.

Not coincidentally, around that time Levien extricated himself from the Sixers ownership group, instead partnering with billionaire Robert Pera. They bought the Grizzlies together last fall; Levien calls the shots now as CEO.

Meanwhile, the 2012-2013 season began and things went badly for the team. Stat geeks laughed from afar at the collection of notoriously inefficient newcomers like Brown and Nick Young, as well as the impulsive drafting of Arnett Moultrie.

Most importantly, gone was Andre Iguodala. In his place was the perpetually injured Andrew Bynum.

The love affair between owners, city and Collins frayed quickly. The tone in the media soured. It stopped feeling like a team that could beat the top overall seed in the East. With a 34-48 record, they couldn't even make the playoffs.

On April 18, Collins announced he was stepping down as coach.

The owners have subtly signaled a doubling down on the kinds of quant analtic geekery that had once been Plan A. They hired Aaron Barzilai as the director of basketball analytics (something Collins was public about not valuing much) in November. They became one of the NBA's first 15 teams to use SportVu optical tracking technology. And, in a move that is increasingly a sign of an organization's new-breed strategic thinking (because of subtle advantages to savvy teams) last month they bought a D-League team -- to be called, of all things, the Delaware 87ers.

Meanwhile, the kind of aggressive new-breed thinking that Collins, Thorn, Stefanski et al always assumed would eventually rule the day in Philly, well ... it's back.

Hinkie has a track record of being respectful and humble, even as he outworks and out thinks the competition. If history is any guide, he'll have little interest in rattling cages by identifying his arrival as a sea change from the way things have been done in Philadelphia.

And maybe that's accurate. In many ways, it's not a sea change. Now Joshua Harris' 76ers are back on course to where they were headed all along, despite the detour. They are once again on the path to becoming the Rockets East, complete with one of the Rockets' key executives.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por sixer » 12 May 2013, 16:13

Pues por todos los comentario leídos parece un buen fichaje, encima innovador, con este enfoque analítico de las estadísticas que tanto se lleva ahora.

Para empezar dos decisiones importantes casi inmediatas, la elección de entrenador y la del draft. Y a ver que piensa del tema Bynum

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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por sixer » 15 May 2013, 18:27

PHILADELPHIA -- Sam Hinkie wants the 76ers to use the Moneyball-type of thinking popularized in baseball to build a championship team in Philadelphia.

Hinkie can crunch the numbers using any formula he'd like -- he'd find the Sixers were pretty awful this season.

But that's why Hinkie was hired away from Houston, to build the 34-win Sixers into title contenders, not just by using traditional player statistics like rebounds and points, but through alternative -- and complex -- ways of calculating a player's value that often clash with old-school, front-office thinking.

Considered an innovator in the Rockets' cutting edge analytic efforts, the Sixers named Hinkie team president and general manager on Tuesday.

"I'm just trying to use information to make decisions," Hinkie said. "I think some people move along quickly and others don't. That's OK."

Hinkie replaced president Rod Thorn, who moved into a consulting role, and GM Tony DiLeo, fired after one year on the job and 23 years total in the front office.

Hinkie spent the last eight years in Houston and was the executive vice president of basketball operations for the Rockets. A year after he was passed over for the GM job, Hinkie was the top choice this time by owner Joshua Harris to oversee the rebuilding of this beleaguered franchise.

Hinkie must now hire a coach after Doug Collins resigned following three seasons. Collins and Thorn are officially consultants for the team, but are now in the background of a major reconstruction project that Harris, Hinkie and a new coach will tackle.

The Sixers have a short list of coaching candidates but have not interviewed anyone.

In looking for a coach, Hinkie said all philosophies would be blended into a successful organization, not just analytics.

"I think it's all too-often overstated about how analytically minded a head coach needs to be," Hinkie said. "I think every head coach in the NBA is analytically minded. I think they all want to win. I think more and more, as they meet organizations that have really invested in this, they say this is helpful."

Hinkie replaces DiLeo, who was widely credited -- and now blamed -- for orchestrating the botched deal for injury-prone center Andrew Bynum.

Harris said some of the roster decisions made, like the Bynum deal and giving multi-year deals to Spencer Hawes and Kwame Brown, were not made with "good process. They weren't good decisions."

Philadelphia went to the playoffs in Collins' first two seasons, and advanced to the Eastern Conference semifinals last season. But with Bynum injured all season, the 76ers stumbled to a 34-48 record this season, finishing 20 games behind division-champion New York. They'll have a first-round pick in the NBA draft lottery and about $11-$12 million in salary cap room. He's off this week to Chicago for the pre-draft camp.

Jrue Holiday was an All-Star in his third full season and joined Wilt Chamberlain as the two players in the franchise's 50-year history to average more than 17 points and eight assists for an entire season. Thaddeus Young and Evan Turner are solid assets. But those two standouts -- along with Holiday -- weren't enough to help lead the Sixers back to the postseason.

Along the way, Bynum never played for the Sixers because of bone bruises in both knees. He insisted from training camp he would play this season, only to shut it down for good on March 18. He then underwent season-ending arthroscopic surgery on both knees. Bynum earned $16.5 million this season and is set to become an unrestricted free agent.

Bynum is one of six free agents for the Sixers, who are devoid of any real assets outside of Holiday.

Without playing a game for the Sixers, Bynum said at his introductory press conference he wanted to make Philadelphia his home -- and the team was ready to commit.

"Where do I sign?" Harris said last August. "Show me the contract."

There were no enthusiastic endorsements at the Sixers' practice facility on Tuesday.

"I think of Andrew like the thousands of other young men walking around the world that are unrestricted free agents that have potential to play NBA basketball," Hinkie said. "He is one of those. I'm duty bound to consider them and look at them. All of them."

And from Harris?

"We're going to look into it."

The Rockets became the first NBA team to manage the basketball operations of its D-League team. Likely as a sign of what's ahead, the 76ers last month acquired a team to compete in the NBA's developmental league in Delaware. It was that kind of thinking that impressed the Rockets -- and the Sixers.

"His valuable insight regarding players and the NBA, whether building around Yao Ming or taking the multiple strategic steps necessary to acquire James Harden, has provided the Rockets with an unmatched advantage over the years," Houston GM Daryl Morey said. "Philadelphia will realize over time what an important acquisition they have made."

The Sixers hope they realize it if they can celebrate their first championship since 1983.


Presentación de Hinkie . No parece muy entusiasmado por Bynum.

Lo que me sorprende es lo que ha dicho Harris del contrato de Hawes, vaya palo no? :shock:

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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Eneko_ » 15 May 2013, 20:11

Os aviso que las entradas para el Bilbao Basket- 76ers salen este viernes, entre 28 y 120 euros :wink:

Hoy ha estado Jrue Holiday por el botxo, incluso se ha atrevido a decir alguna palabra en euskera :todos a botar:

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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por sixer » 15 May 2013, 20:48

:mrgreen:

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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Illmatic » 15 May 2013, 21:20

Yo mańana ire a preguntar al FNAC y Viajes Halcon si van a ser capaces de conseguirme una entrada de 28, espero que no haya saturacion porque quiero pillarme la mas barata
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Baerd » 15 May 2013, 21:30

Día? que igual me acerco a ver a los 76ers.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Illmatic » 17 May 2013, 17:46

Baerd escribió:Día? que igual me acerco a ver a los 76ers.

10 OCT
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Bias » 17 May 2013, 23:19

Former Wolves boss David Kahn told some friends he thought he had the Sixers general manager job. It went to Houston assistant GM Sam Hinkie.

Celtic assistant general manager and team counsel Mike Zarren turned down an offer to become the general manager of the Philadelphia 76ers, two league sources told the Herald yesterday. The job eventually went to Sam Hinkie. “I don’t know all the details, but I know there was strong interest in Mike from Philly,” said Ainge. “I don’t know why (he turned it down). You’ll have to ask him.”


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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Bufonloco » 18 May 2013, 13:19

Bah, gente que busca entrar en rumores a ver si se puede apuntar a alguna carrera por un puesto de GM.

Aquí lo que está claro es que el año pasado teniamos una opción número 1, nos rechazó y un año después es al que hemos fichado. Yo dudo que hayan hgablado con nadie más, han preguntado al que querían y como ha dicho que si ya no han perdido más el tiempo.
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por Anthony Bonner » 18 May 2013, 13:28

Por cierto que Young, Nick,...está en problemas legales, http://gossiponthis.com/2013/05/18/nba- ... are-bogus/
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Re: Philadelphia Sixers 12/13. Nuevo GM!

por sixer » 18 May 2013, 15:12

Feo asunto ese de Nick Young ... fue en su época con los Wizards y cuando fichó por los Sixers ya estaban al tanto de ello.

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