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El trabajo de Jason Kidd en Milwaukee Bucks destacó por el desarrollo de Malcolm Brogdon como base.
Ese fue el motivo por el que lo firmaron Lakers, pensaban desarrollar a Lonzo Ball:

Jason Kidd a big believer in Lonzo Ball, wants to help Lakers develop him
https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2019/05/ ... ball-news/


¿Por qué los Milwaukee Bucks han despedido a Jason Kidd?
https://thewing.es/bucks-despedido-jason-kidd/

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El habitual preguntas y respuestas con Begley...

Pros and Cons of having Thibs as head coach

I could probably fill the whole mailbag with an answer to this question, but for the sake of brevity, I'll go with one in each category:

PRO: If he's hired, Tom Thibodeau would solely be coaching in New York. The last time Thibodeau was only a coach, things worked out pretty well from a bottom-line perspective. He turned the Chicago Bulls into one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference. It's hard to argue with his success in the Windy City.

After a fallout in Chicago, Thibodeau took on the role of team president in Minnesota. The Timberwolves reached the playoffs under his guidance -- snapping a 13-year streak -- but his tenure there ended in messy fashion after the trade for Jimmy Butler didn't work out.

Thibodeau, of course, wouldn't have to worry about executing personnel moves in New York. He could focus solely on coaching the team.

Also, Thibodeau reportedly didn't have a good relationship with management in Chicago. It's fair to assume that wouldn't be an issue in New York, as Thibs is close with Knicks president Leon Rose.

CON: Something you hear from some people in touch with a few young players around the league: there is a stigma attached to Thibodeau, and it isn't a positive one. That stigma, generally, goes something like this: he is demanding and difficult to play for. Is this a case of Thibodeau's reputation not accurately reflecting reality? Maybe.

Only players who have played for Thibodeau know the answer to that. But the idea that the perception is out there being discussed by some young players is a bit troubling.

It's worth noting here that Thibodeau talked recently about observing different approaches to practice during his visits with teams over the past year. Will he adapt his approach to practice time/playing time in New York after seeing how other teams handle it? I think Knicks fans worried about this factor should at least consider the idea that Thibodeau can/will change his approach.

Do you really think that Kenny (Atkinson) could have the same success as a Knicks head coach as he had as a Nets head coach?

I can't think of an obvious reason why Atkinson couldn't have the same success with the Knicks. New York began last season as one of the youngest teams in the league. They have three draft picks in the upcoming NBA Draft. Assuming they don't trade their young players or picks in the offseason, the Knicks should have one of the youngest rosters in the NBA again in 2020-21.

That would play to what most see as an Atkinson strength: player development.

In Brooklyn, Atkinson showed you how he can develop young players. Just look at Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen and Joe Harris. If he's surrounded by the right support staff, you'd think Atkinson can have the same success with young Knicks like RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson in New York.

The question for Atkinson surrounds coaching stars. He didn't have the chance to do that in Brookyn because he was let go last March, before Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving had a chance to share the court.

The Knicks, eventually, will be pursuing star players under Rose. If they land one via trade or free agency and Atkinson is the coach, he'll have the chance to show critics that he can he can handle coaching an established star.

You know what Larry Brown and Mike D'Antoni have in common. Both were big name coaches and failed in NY because the front office failed to give them good players who fit their style. Eddy Curry, David Lee, Nate, Jamal are not Larry Brown players.

Larry Hughes, Toney Douglas, Carmelo Anthony are not good fits on a D'Antoni team. My point is it doesn't matter who the Knicks hire as coach if the front office can't deliver any talent. Fizdale, say what you will about him, was handed five backup forwards last summer. Then, he was fired when, shockingly, that roster couldn't win games early this season.

There isn't a question in here, but I understand @The_Cooler's point. Getting the right coach is important, but providing that coach with enough talent to win is probably more important. Fizdale didn't have the chance to coach much talent in New York before he was fired last season. The firing was widely viewed as a way for management to show that the roster they put together was competent and that Fizdale was the problem.

If this was management's thinking when they let Fizdale go, things didn't go according to plan. Then, team president Steve Mills was reassigned a few weeks after Fizdale was fired. That underscores @The_Cooler's point: the Knicks can hire the next Gregg Popovich. But they won't be successful with that coach unless they are patient with him/her and they surround him/her with the right talent on the court.

Information on interviews/when to expect a hire

We've got that covered in most of our stories on the coaching search on SNY.tv. Initial calls/interviews are taking place now. They are brief introductory calls. There will be longer, follow-up interviews in the coming weeks.

The search is expected to extend into July; I expect the Knicks to have a coach in place before the NBA season resumes down in Orlando

Por ultimo es el propio Begley a traves de su portal SNY.com el que lanza una encuesta en donde hace la siguiente pregunta... quien desearias que fuese el proximo entrenador de los Knicks, Thibodeau o Atkinson?? Kenny gana de goleada con un 67%

Personalmente un combo Kenny con asistentes como Flaming o Mike Miller, sigue siendo mi opción numero 1 y por mucho.

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Tema coach:

- The Knicks have already spoken to Jason Kidd & are planning a more formal interview before LA heads to Orlando.

- According to a new report, despite a growing list of candidates, Tom Thibodeau is “definitely” still the front runner for the Knicks head coaching job.

Tema draft:

- Seton Hall guard Myles Powell has had a Zoom interview with the Knicks.

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- According to a new report, despite a growing list of candidates, Tom Thibodeau is “definitely” still the front runner for the Knicks head coaching job.

Como todo este proceso, ya sea en materia de tecnico y draft, acabe con Thibs como entrenador y Cole Anthony seleccionado en el draft, que era lo que se hablaba allá por finales de Febrero, principios de Marzo, es para echarse unas risas

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In



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In



we trust

[Sergio Perez Anagnostou]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Enviado desde mi SM-J710F mediante Tapatalk

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[Sergio Perez Anagnostou]

Jojojojojoojo ya estamos todos

Enviado desde mi SM-J710F mediante Tapatalk

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Ya tenemos a Tom Hagen.

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Pues ya tenemos a las dos cabezas visibles de la CAA al mando...

Ganar, no se si ganaremos mucho o poco, pero que nos vamos a divertir y vamos a entretener al mundillo NBA, estoy seguro.



PD: Quien piense que Rose& World Wide Wes se meten en esto para desarrollar jovenes y esperar 3-4 años a ver si la fruta esta madura y buena, que se vayan olvidando.

PD2: Cuando Phil llegó, lo primero que quiso hacer es largar a toda esta gente del entorno Knick...y lo logró. Unos años más tarde, ellos son los que mandan

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Se vienen Giannis, Zion, Towns, Embiid y Davis y a campeonar.

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Oficial

Ademas esta noche, por fin, hablara Leon Rose

Veremos que nos cuenta...

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Como tiene que ser WWW para que un hater oficioso de los Knicks, como el cenutrio este de Perkins, diga esto...

Estan rescatando con el anuncio de Rose y WWW, un tweet de Givony de Febrero...

Jonathan Givony@DraftExpress

Might not mean much ultimately, but Leon Rose's former agency CAA also represents one LaMelo Ball, while William Wesley has Detroit ties to Ball's manager, Jermaine Jackson, as well as Ball's mother Tina. We'll have to see where their pick lands and how things shake out.

5:46 PM - Feb 6, 2020

Lo que hacia falta es LaVarr para el trio...

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Estan rescatando con el anuncio de Rose y WWW, un tweet de Givony de Febrero...

Jonathan Givony@DraftExpress

Might not mean much ultimately, but Leon Rose's former agency CAA also represents one LaMelo Ball, while William Wesley has Detroit ties to Ball's manager, Jermaine Jackson, as well as Ball's mother Tina. We'll have to see where their pick lands and how things shake out.

5:46 PM - Feb 6, 2020

Lo que hacia falta es LaVarr para el trio...

Esto si que me da miedo. Yo creía que los Ball habían roto con CAA.

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LaMelo finalmente no fue a CAA así que supongo no significa gran cosa ese tweet.

En la NBA todo dios lo conoce pero yo no tengo ni idea así que ellos sabrán, la mafia al completo.
A Dolan no le van a consultar estos ni qué precio le ponen a los hot dogs del Madison. El borracho ha vendido su alma al diablo, que se despida de su juguete porque no lo vuelve a tocar

Ahora si se puede decir que Dolan ha hecho como con los Rangers y ha dado plenos poderes a esta gente. El problema? Que en Rangers hicieron presidente a un tipo top de la NHL con campeonatos a sus espaldas y en NBA ha puesto al jefe de una empresa de representación del que no tenemos ni pvta idea si sabe de baloncesto.

[Anthony Bonner]

Sí bueno, no es novedad niguna todo lo que está pasando, y lo cierto es que tampoco me parece reseñable el coach que les encaje mejor entre los directivos y que, después y solo después tenga nivel técnico,....que por ahí irán los tiros en esas pseudoentrevistas.
El verdadero paso es el siguiente, la firma del referente filosofal desde la pista, el gotoguy, el tirador de carreta, el imán para los jugones....ese paso si que es interesante.
Apuesto a que vamos a ir con todo a por DeMar DeRozan, a día de hoy claro, porque esto cualquiera sabe por donde sale....lo mismo cuela Ingran o Bogdanovic, crisis en mano.

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Knicks News: World Wide Wes Coming to MSG


Jonathan Macri
15 minutes ago

After months of dancing around the idea that CAA's William Wesley, better known as World Wide Wes, would be assisting his pal Leon Rose from afar, the Knicks dropped a stunner on Wednesday, announcing that he would be joining the front office in an official capacity as Executive Vice President and Senior Basketball Advisor.

The Knicks also made the hire of Alex Kline official, and announced that they were hiring TJ Zanin (brother of Frank Zanin, their new assistant general manager) as a scout as well. ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski was the first to report the news about Wesley.

While this is still a developing story, and Leon Rose will speak on MSG Network Wednesday night at 7pm to perhaps add more to it, there are several immediate questions the hire raises. Here are the top five:

5. What does this mean for the coaching search?

There were already plenty of insinuations that the Knicks' head coaching search was heavily tied to CAA, the agency for which Leon Rose helmed basketball operations for many years. This not only meant that Tom Thibodeau was always considered the most likely candidate to get the job, but also left some wondering how much it influenced New York's choice of who else to interview since several of the additional candidates are represented by CAA, as first reported by Marc Berman of the New York Post.

Now that noise will only increase. Marc Stein noted on Twitter that Wes is "a big Tom Thibodeau advocate," seemingly making the Thibs hire even more of an inevitability than it once was.

4. How much power does Scott Perry have left?

This question has gotten louder and louder with each additional Rose hire: first Brock Aller to be his chief-of-staff, then Walt Perrin and Frank Zanin to be the heads of college and pro scouting, respectively, and now World Wide Wes, whose title implies that he will be Perry's superior. Stein also noted how Wesley was already assisting in New York's front office hires from afar.

This is welcome news to those who feel that Perry didn't deserve to be retained in any capacity, and at the very least, puts the pressure on him to show his worth in the 2020-21 season.

3. Why now?

When the Leon Rose hire was first announced, the Athletic initially reported that Wesley would be joining the organization with him, only to later retract that statement, reporting that his other business interests would prevent him from officially joining the team.

Something has obviously changed, whether it's him tying up the necessary loose ends or simply the feeling that more can be accomplished from the inside. To that end, multiple league sources have told me that one name to keep in mind with the World Wide Wes connection is Devin Booker. Booker is a CAA client, and although he has four more years on the extension he signed with the Phoenix Suns, he could be a prime target if the Knicks do eventually try to swing a trade for a young star, as he and Wes are close.

That said, this move could have taken place in July, or August, or any other time before this league year officially ends. Unless...

2. How much does this have to do with Statement-gate?

It can't be ruled out that this move was prompted, at least in part, by the recent PR nightmare involving James Dolan and the Knicks being the last team to put out a statement following the nationwide protests in support of Black Lives Matter.

After Brian Windhorst said on ESPN that the Knicks' popularity among players was at an all time low, it's possible that the powers that be felt this move could help repair that damage, even after the Knicks and Rangers held a youth symposium on Juneteenth to discuss and raise awareness about racial issues. After all, Wesley is arguably the most respected non-former player in the NBA, regardless of race. That he felt comfortable working for James Dolan likely carries a great deal of weight.

1. Was this the right move?

Many have speculated that World Wide Wes could be far more help from outside of the organization than he could be from within, simply because if he stayed with CAA, tampering rules could not apply to him.

Now, he'll be under the same (admittedly lightly enforced) restrictions that any other team employee would be facing.

Will the move ultimately pay off regardless? The people who know the answer to that question better than anyone are likely Rose and Wes themselves, so one has to think they know what they're doing here.