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[NightKnick]

Pues haré de abogado del diablo con Horny y lo que sucedió hace unas horas con Ntilikina. No se puede salir a la cancha con esa caraja encima, dejando que Ricky te haga un hijo y teniendo dos perdidas de premini.. asi no!!

Burke fue el único que le dio problemas a Ricky y con su capacidad para driblar abrió la zona de los Jazz.

Que Frankie salga al 200% y espabile, que los minutos no se regalan.


PD: En partidos como el de anoche, se da uno cuenta de la importancia de ese juego anárquico de Timmy...

Ese tipo de cosas las hace Stevens en Boston, y le va bien para el crecimiento de los jóvenes (ya depende de las facultades del joven en cuestión).

Por cierto, espero que no se le vaya a pasar por la cabeza a los de nuestra FO eso de ir a por Kemba dando a Ntilikina y/o primeras rondas. Que todavía nos veo en tres años con Porzingis más solo que la una y con ganas de irse, sin jóvenes de ningún tipo, y rezando los dedos para que nos toque algo bueno en el Draft para empezar del cero más absoluto. Ni Isiah haría un movimiento tan suyo como ese.

[cebemaniaco]

Baker, nuestro particular hobbit, muchas veces ridiculizado... es cierto que hay partidos en los que aporta lo que a este equipo le falta, caracter, trabajo, esfuerzo, en ese sentido Hornacek no se casa con nadie y cuando uno esta ayudando al equipo, pues juega.

Ejemplos del esfuerzo de Baker...

Por cierto, en el ultimo ataque de los Jazz nos salvamos de una buena, increible sufrir de este modo cuando ganabamos 103 a 113 a falta de 2 minutos...

[cebemaniaco]

Al igual que lo de Kemba me cuesta verlo... por Hood si que haria un pequeño esfuerzo.

Info de Zach Lowe en ESPN...

Utah open to trading Hood before the deadline for an expiring.

According to the New York Times' Marc Stein, "there is a growing belief in league personnel circles" that the Jazz could deal the swingman "with multiple teams expressing interest."

ESPN.com's Zach Lowe confirmed Utah has explored moving Hood before the deadline.

Es FA y no se que es lo que piden los Jazz por él pero se ve que hay varios equipos detras de Hood. La verdad es que para nosotros seria un fit realmente bueno. Son 2 kilos lo que cobra... esta claro que Willy + pick de Bulls podria ser una opcion. Favors es FA y con Willy al menos tienen a un interior a precio ganga con contrato rookie para acompañar a Gobert. Por tirar el anzuelo a ver si pica no perdemos nada.



PD: Interesantes apuntes sobre los partidos que llevamos en esta gira de Porzingis...

Been playing very well very mature
Great defense
Not forcing on offense
Taking between 14-17 shots
Quick decisions when having the ball

He needs to play like this rest of the way
Not worry about his points per game stat
He was thinking too much about needing to score 30

He's averaging in less than 30 minutes a game - 22 points a game on almost 47% shooting in this stretch and the rim protection is great with 3.7 blocks a game.

Muy de acuerdo en todo lo expuesto...

[PinHeadKnickJR]

Rodney Hood se va a sacar un contrato tipo Timmy, así que no sé en que situación nos dejaría de cara al futuro el tenerlo que renovar.
Que ojo, a mí es un jugador que me gusta y que le vendría muy bien al equipo por ser un alero (lo más flojo que tenemos, a parte de la posición de base) con talento anotador (algo de lo que carece este equipo). No hay que hipotecarse ya que habrá que dejar espacio para darle el máximo a Porzingis y para fichar un base top, que es lo que más necesitamos.

[inverno]

Hood sería una gran afición. Un alero sólido nos vendría de lujo.

¿Interesaría Willy a los Jazz? Le veo el único activo potable que podrían querer en Utah.

[nyknicker]

A mi Hood también me parece un jugadorazo! Y no me importaría nada conseguirlo y renovarlo a precio de Timmy, dado que si liberamos a Lee, pues tendríamos a dos wings en Timmy y él para años.


Y por Kemba lo dicho, sí pero si tenemos que traspasar a Frank o pick, yo pasaría.

[Gerald_Wilkins]

Te pones a mirar todos los equipos con los que supuestamente vamos a luchar por el 8 y pienso que somos lo mas escasos de talentos de todos.

Pensais que Kemba es el base que necesitamos?????

[jamesharden13]

Hood es un jugadorazo y más para un equipo como el nuestro que no tiene alero y que juega con Lance Thomas como SF titular.

El problema de Rondey es que es un 2-3 y no un 3 puro ni mucho menos. Pero a mi me gusta mucho. Sin duda.

[cebemaniaco]

La última de Begley, básicamente su opinión, sobre Kemba...

an Begley
ESPN Staff Writer
I think Kemba Walker would be a fantastic addition for the Knicks (and many other teams) but Charlotte appears eager to shed an additional contract in a Walker deal, per ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. I'd be wary of taking back an additional long-term contract in any trade if I'm the Knicks.

Eso de chuparse un mal contrato de Charlotte es algo que tira para atrás a Perry.

[Art94]

Menuda bestialidad de partido el Cavs Okc.... Carmelo dándole a Lebron. 148 puntos sin prórroga, Westbrook 20 asistencias

[cebemaniaco]

Kanter desde luego no se va de cañas con Bron...

https://nypost.com/2018/01/20/enes-kant ... wout-loss/

Como me embauca el turco con estas cosas jajajajaja

[PinHeadKnickJR]

He estado jugando con la Trade Machine:
Como veríais un Hood+McGree (era para cuadrar salarios) xxx Willy+McDermott+2nda Ronda (se podría estudiar hasta meter otra más)

[Picco]

Marc Berman en NY Post, y en la web de NBA está.

In a similar message he made on Martin Luther King Day, Hornacek said the playoff talk has come more from players and that management and the coaching staff is still bent on development, forming a defensive identity and “to keep the big picture in mind.” Indicating a playoff berth is gravy, the Knicks coach acknowledged for the first time the club’s early winning record was partly because of a favorable home schedule.At the morning shootaround Friday in the Utah arena in which his Jazz jersey is retired, Hornacek responded to speculation he’s coaching for his job amid this current freefall. It’s something hardly new since he has one year left on his contract and Phil Jackson, who hired Hornacek, is no longer here.

Hornacek invoked his coaching stint in Phoenix when expectations changed after he posted a 48-34 record in his rookie year in 2013-14.

However, Hornacek insisted Mills and GM Scott Perry have not changed the long-term plan for the Knicks. An NBA source confirmed nothing has changed, that playoffs has never been the No. 1 priority for management this season as they hold their own first-round pick in the last year of the current lottery format.

“In Phoenix, the plan was rebuilding and [we] got off and had a great year,” Hornacek said. “Then the expectations changed, the mentality changed. Here we talked about rebuilding and got off to a good start because we had a lot of home games. But Scott, Steve, we’re still on the same page, giving our young guys opportunities. We’re still trying to win games. We want to establish where we have an identity defensively [that] we’re going to get after it all the time. We’re building toward that and it’s great to have that support.”

"PO nunca han sido prioridad de este equipo. Si el desarrollar jóvenes, establecer identidad defensiva."

"Aquí se hablo desde el prinicipio de reconstrucción, pero el favorable calendario en casa en el inicio hizo que se empezará muy bien (y la gente se creara otras expectativas)."

Entiendo que desarrollar jóvenes no solo entra el darle minutos, sino en hacerle ver fallos, hacer que se fije en ciertas cosas, no sé, en más cosas diferentes a minutos. Porque si no, no se entiende mucho (sobre todo en Willy y Dotson, aunque también podría valer Ntilikina).

Este artículo ( http://global.nba.com/news/new-york-kni ... m:homepage ) viene por lo de Kemba, se dice que es un posible destino, no se puede descartar, pero no nos vamos a engañar si pensamos que el equipo lo que busca es reconstrucción, y acelerarla a poder ser.

Veremos.

Por cierto, mañana a las 9:30 vs Lakers, sin Lonzo creo. Buena hora, buen partido.

P.D: Increíble lo de los Cavs, vaya despropósito de equipo, y con LeBron. Varios partidos que se han dejado remontar, no buenas sensaciones, y ahora este partido 148 - 124. LeBron por su parte ha dicho que espera que no despidan a Lue.

Esto no puede tardar mucho en moverse, en términos de mercado, tal y como están algunos equipos.

Timmy ayer

[Gerald_Wilkins]

Joder, la verdad que lo de los Bulls es digno de estudio..... por cierto, nuestra 2º ronda que viene de ellos cada vez es mas alta.......

[cebemaniaco]

Timmy dice hoy que tanto él como sus compañeros, quieren jugar los POs...

Hardaway Jr. determined to lead Knicks to playoffs
He believes his young teammates can close the gap on the Eastern Conference’s last playoff spot by the All-Star break.



Now that Tim Hardaway Jr. is healthy and playing again, he wants to help the Knicks reach the playoffs. That’s his singular goal, and he won’t be happy if they fall short.

“We’re trying to make the playoffs, point blank,” he said after practice Saturday at UCLA. “Myself being in the playoffs the past two seasons, I wouldn’t want anything less. Anything less than that to me isn’t a good season. I want to go out there and do whatever I can on my behalf and my part to help the team win.”

Jeff Hornacek also wants the Knicks to make the playoffs, but he is trying to temper expectations. He continues to say this season is about building, growing and developing.

Hornacek said the players have the higher expectations now. Hardaway, who played for Atlanta the previous two seasons, echoed that Saturday.

“I want to make the playoffs,” he said. “I know my teammates want to make the playoffs. We are developing as a ballclub. We are young. At the same time, we feel even though we’re a young group of guys, we still have that heart and that passion to go out there and win ballgames and string some ballgames together to get back in that playoff position. We’re on the outside looking in. Hopefully we’ll get closer going into the All-Star break.”

Entering Saturday, the Knicks (21-25) were 2½ games out of the Eastern Conference’s last playoff spot. They feel confident that they can make up that ground and even go on a run because Hardaway is back, and they’re off to a decent start in what many considered their toughest stretch of the season. They are 2-1 on a seven-game road trip that continues Sunday afternoon against the Lakers.

“I feel like with our group, we have that fire and that desire and in our heart [the goal] is to make the playoffs one hundred percent,” Hardaway said. “If we don’t make the playoffs, we’re going to go home in April upset.”

[cebemaniaco]

Por cierto para el partido de esta noche, 9:30 horario top, Lonzo esta oficialmente descartado y tanto KCP como Ingram son dudas...

The Los Angeles Lakers announced Lonzo Ball is out for tomorrow's game vs the New York Knicks. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Brandon Ingram are are both questionable to play.

[NightKnick]

Por cierto para el partido de esta noche, 9:30 horario top, Lonzo esta oficialmente descartado y tanto KCP como Ingram son dudas...

The Los Angeles Lakers announced Lonzo Ball is out for tomorrow's game vs the New York Knicks. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Brandon Ingram are are both questionable to play.

W seguro entonces.

Normal por otro lado que los jugadores digan lo de los PO. Como decían en un artículo, a los jugadores no les interesa tanquear, les va en ello prestigio y futuros contratos. Son los directivos de las franquicias los que se ponen manos a la obra.

[cebemaniaco]

Por cierto, ojo a la buena relación que tiene Burke desde hace tiempo con el propio Perry. No es casualidad su fichaje por el equipo afiliado, ni mucho menos su salto a los Knicks...

What the emergence of Trey Burke means for Knicks, Frank Ntilikina

"We do have another option. So on a night Frank is not having a great night or something, we have Trey for that opportunity," Hornacek said. "Same with Jarrett (Jack). We have three guys for that spot. And we'll look at how it goes. Nobody is great every single night."

If this sounds hypocritical it's because just a day earlier Hornacek said he's prioritizing development over playoffs. And nobody requires more development more than the 19-year-old Ntilikina, the eighth overall pick in last year's draft who has disappeared in the first two games of this Western Conference road trip. Hornacek hinted Ntilikina may be having issues adjusting to the condensed travel schedule in the NBA.

"It's just a 19-year-old consistency problem that probably every 19-year-old has in this league," Hornacek said. "It's new stuff. We're traveling now. Earlier on we were home a lot. So that makes it easier on a young player."


While the Knicks have placed a lot of stock in Ntilikina, there are people in the organization pushing hard for Burke. The 25-year-old has a supporter in GM Scott Perry, who worked as an assistant coach at Burke's alma mater, the University of Michigan.

Perry also developed a relationship with Burke during the 2013 draft process while the assistant GM of the Magic. Orlando owned the second pick and chose Victor Oladipo, but also considered Burke, who fell to the Jazz at No. 9.

It was Perry who convinced Burke to sign with the Westchester Knicks of the G-League, which he parlayed into his current NBA contract for the remainder of the season.

"Scott Perry, that's my guy," said Burke, who said he turned down a $3 million offer from a team in China for his G-League opportunity. "He told me he was going to give me an opportunity to come (to Westchester) and start there, and if I do what I do, he'll give me an opportunity (with the Knicks).

"Now we're here, I just got to continue to get better."

Burke's performance Friday was impressive since he was only called up last week and hasn't had enough time to learn the offense.

"I'm getting there," he said. "There were a few times I'd go somewhere where I wasn't supposed to go. Because there were sets being called at me that you think you know but when you get out there and things are moving fast, I thought I was in the right spot but I wasn't."

But does Burke's progress mean less playing time for Ntilikina? At the very least, Hornacek made it seem that Burke's presence will make it less likely he'll allow the lottery rookie to play through his struggles.

"That's why we have options like Trey on nights Frank doesn't have it," he said.

Horny confirma lo que es un secreto a voces desde que esta en el banquillo, juegan los que mejor están... nada de el típico encorsetamiento de otros tecnicos de la NBA. Igual gana a Boston con la segunda unidad jugando el último cuarto, que mantiene a McDermott en pista en San Antonio o se la juega en Utah con Burke y Beasley en los últimos minutos. Poco le puedo reprochar en ese sentido. Buen concepto de meritocracia.

[NightKnick]

Por cierto, ojo a la buena relación que tiene Burke desde hace tiempo con el propio Perry. No es casualidad su fichaje por el equipo afiliado, ni mucho menos su salto a los Knicks...

What the emergence of Trey Burke means for Knicks, Frank Ntilikina

"We do have another option. So on a night Frank is not having a great night or something, we have Trey for that opportunity," Hornacek said. "Same with Jarrett (Jack). We have three guys for that spot. And we'll look at how it goes. Nobody is great every single night."

If this sounds hypocritical it's because just a day earlier Hornacek said he's prioritizing development over playoffs. And nobody requires more development more than the 19-year-old Ntilikina, the eighth overall pick in last year's draft who has disappeared in the first two games of this Western Conference road trip. Hornacek hinted Ntilikina may be having issues adjusting to the condensed travel schedule in the NBA.

"It's just a 19-year-old consistency problem that probably every 19-year-old has in this league," Hornacek said. "It's new stuff. We're traveling now. Earlier on we were home a lot. So that makes it easier on a young player."


While the Knicks have placed a lot of stock in Ntilikina, there are people in the organization pushing hard for Burke. The 25-year-old has a supporter in GM Scott Perry, who worked as an assistant coach at Burke's alma mater, the University of Michigan.

Perry also developed a relationship with Burke during the 2013 draft process while the assistant GM of the Magic. Orlando owned the second pick and chose Victor Oladipo, but also considered Burke, who fell to the Jazz at No. 9.

It was Perry who convinced Burke to sign with the Westchester Knicks of the G-League, which he parlayed into his current NBA contract for the remainder of the season.

"Scott Perry, that's my guy," said Burke, who said he turned down a $3 million offer from a team in China for his G-League opportunity. "He told me he was going to give me an opportunity to come (to Westchester) and start there, and if I do what I do, he'll give me an opportunity (with the Knicks).

"Now we're here, I just got to continue to get better."

Burke's performance Friday was impressive since he was only called up last week and hasn't had enough time to learn the offense.

"I'm getting there," he said. "There were a few times I'd go somewhere where I wasn't supposed to go. Because there were sets being called at me that you think you know but when you get out there and things are moving fast, I thought I was in the right spot but I wasn't."

But does Burke's progress mean less playing time for Ntilikina? At the very least, Hornacek made it seem that Burke's presence will make it less likely he'll allow the lottery rookie to play through his struggles.

"That's why we have options like Trey on nights Frank doesn't have it," he said.

Horny confirma lo que es un secreto a voces desde que esta en el banquillo, juegan los que mejor están... nada de el típico encorsetamiento de otros tecnicos de la NBA. Igual gana a Boston con la segunda unidad jugando el último cuarto, que mantiene a McDermott en pista en San Antonio o se la juega en Utah con Burke y Beasley en los últimos minutos. Poco le puedo reprochar en ese sentido. Buen concepto de meritocracia.

Eso es oro puro para el desarrollo de los jóvenes, si se tiene mano izquierda con ellos y/o tienen carácter. Garantizarle minutos a un rookie por "contrato" llega un momento en el que es complicado saber cuándo está aprendiendo y cuándo se está acomodando.

[jamesharden13]

Yo creo que con Trey Burke hemos perdido tiempo. Le vamos a dar media temporada cuando podían haber sido 65-70 partidos porque a Sessions se le veía a kilómetros que no es ya jugador de NBA. Burke pues bueno, tampoco es jugador de la D-League y tiene calidad suficiente para aportar en la rotación de un equipo como el nuestro. Yo creo que solo puede ir a mejor el jugador. Siempre me ha gustado y es posible que pueda ser su momento en la liga.