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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por nyknicker » 20 Mar 2018, 12:25

cebemaniaco escribió:Me da tanta pereza el equipo que ni escribo por aqui... es una de las temporadas mas lamentables en cuanto a todo que recuerdo, ni hay jovenes con un techo alto (mas alla de Porzingis) estamos llenos de jornaleros que tienen mas corazon y ganas, que calidad y futuro y los veteranos, que la mayoria no pintan nada aqui ( meto a Kanter en el lote) jugando demasiados minutos...

El volantazo, se tuvo que dar cuando este equipo estaba por encima de sus posibilidades, la gestion del pecas, en Junio que es cuando se ponen las notas, si no hay un milagro en el sorteo y acabamos con el 9º peor record, sera de las peores que se recuerdan, como este equipo que transmite cero ilusion.

Mucha pereza todo..

Yo también creo que infravaloras esta temporado o sobrevaloras anteriores. Por ejemplo, con un All-Star perenne como Carmelo Anthony nos hemos pasado varias temporadas en el rango de 27-30 victorias incluso una con 17. U otras más dantescas con Eddy Curry, Sweatney y Randolph sin picks del draft.

Y entiendo la frustración con Ntilikina, pero si algo tiene es que aún sigue teniendo un techo alto.

Yo creo que es más un hartazgo de esta década, vamos viendo pasar proyectos fracasados que no de esta temporada en particular, que de hecho será el proyecto más basado en el draft tal y como pedíamos desde hace años.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por cebemaniaco » 20 Mar 2018, 12:41

nyknicker escribió: Yo creo que es más un hartazgo de esta década, vamos viendo pasar proyectos fracasados que no de esta temporada en particular, que de hecho será el proyecto más basado en el draft tal y como pedíamos desde hace años.
Este equipo pedia vender a ciertos jugadores veteranos en Diciembre, cuando estaba fresco el inicio de temporada... meter algo mas de juventud y estar ahora, independientemente de la lesion de Porzi, mirando al top 5 del draft e ilusionados sobre el jugador que nos llegase.

Ese era el esquema y mira que para la temporada que viene, esta claro el panorama... pues estaremos en las mismas dentro de un año por tener una vision erronea sobre lo que es competir, el caballo de batalla y la palabra maldita de Perry esta temporada. :-?

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por Anthony Bonner » 20 Mar 2018, 12:56

No creo, más bien creo que la lesión de KP nos deja en cueros, nada más. El equipo pierde partidos que tiene ganado, y aún así está cerca de PO,...con KP hubiéramos sido novenos o décimos,...por méritos de Miami, Sixers y Bucks que están muy fuertes, nos quedaríamos sin PO. Todos los jugadores parecerían mucho mejores.
Escogeríamos con el pick 10-13 y listo.
Ahora vamos a escoger con el pick 9, ¡gran diferencia!
La cuestión es que KP se lesiona en el peor momento posible para la temporada y para el futuro. Se lesiona cuando no hay marcha atrás y fastidia totalmente ir hacia delante.
El único pero a Perry es que no supo tradear sin perder un futuro o flexibilidad importante,...para mejorar el grupo. En los partidos previos a la lesión de KP ya andaban algo faltos de gasolina.
Curiosa papeleta la que tiene en verano Perry, ....dónde tiene que renovar a KP -que renovará porque todo jugador lo hace en su situación-, y, en principio, es muy tentador hacer un tankeateam, cuestión esta última que casa cero con los intereses del letón.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por sotero_18 » 20 Mar 2018, 13:06

cebemaniaco escribió:
nyknicker escribió: Yo creo que es más un hartazgo de esta década, vamos viendo pasar proyectos fracasados que no de esta temporada en particular, que de hecho será el proyecto más basado en el draft tal y como pedíamos desde hace años.
Este equipo pedia vender a ciertos jugadores veteranos en Diciembre, cuando estaba fresco el inicio de temporada... meter algo mas de juventud y estar ahora, independientemente de la lesion de Porzi, mirando al top 5 del draft e ilusionados sobre el jugador que nos llegase.

Ese era el esquema y mira que para la temporada que viene, esta claro el panorama... pues estaremos en las mismas dentro de un año por tener una vision erronea sobre lo que es competir, el caballo de batalla y la palabra maldita de Perry esta temporada. :-?
Sobrevaloras los veteranos de este equipo e infravaloras el poder de KP. La única diferencia la marca KP con rodilla y sin rodilla.

Crees que vendiendo a Lee, Jack o Beasley tendriamos 3 o 4 victorias menos? Permíteme que lo dude, el tanking desde la lesión de KP es tan extremo que solo nos iguala Memphis. Ni en nuestros mejores sueños o pesadillas podiamos esperar semejante caida del equipo.

Por el momento Perry hay poco que criticarle, ya llegará esta offseason para evaluar lo que hace pero a estas alturas no ha tenido demasiado margen para moverse.
A mi me está gustando mucho sus movimientos con contratos menores pero el plato gordo viene con el Draft y el nuevo coach.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por sotero_18 » 20 Mar 2018, 13:16

Anthony Bonner escribió: Curiosa papeleta la que tiene en verano Perry, ....dónde tiene que renovar a KP -que renovará porque todo jugador lo hace en su situación-, y, en principio, es muy tentador hacer un tankeateam, cuestión esta última que casa cero con los intereses del letón.
Podrá gustar más o menos pero hay una hoja de ruta marcada que ya van filtrando de vez en cuando a los periodistas de NY. Solo hay que leer entre lineas a Begley para entender que son mensajes interesados de la FO.

- El asunto Honacek-Noah sigue en standby y filtran a prensa que cuando acabe se tomarán decisiones para ambos.
Despido y Buyout respectavimante, es de suponer no?

- Gustan los Bridges. Asumen desde hace tiempo que el rango del pick 9 es el nuestro y filtran esos dos nombres.

- Siempre se lee lo de offseason 2019. Dejar recuperar a KP tranquilamente, mantenerse tranquilos este 2018, perder partidos para elegir otro top 10 y hacer equipo serio para entonces...

No digo que sea lo que me guste o no, pero el camino parece marcado. Al menos tienen un plan... :roll:
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por cebemaniaco » 20 Mar 2018, 13:21

sotero_18 escribió:
Anthony Bonner escribió: Curiosa papeleta la que tiene en verano Perry, ....dónde tiene que renovar a KP -que renovará porque todo jugador lo hace en su situación-, y, en principio, es muy tentador hacer un tankeateam, cuestión esta última que casa cero con los intereses del letón.
Podrá gustar más o menos pero hay una hoja de ruta marcada que ya van filtrando de vez en cuando a los periodistas de NY. Solo hay que leer entre lineas a Begley para entender que son mensajes interesados de la FO.

- El asunto Honacek-Noah sigue en standby y filtran a prensa que cuando acabe se tomarán decisiones para ambos.
Despido y Buyout respectavimante, es de suponer no?

- Gustan los Bridges. Asumen desde hace tiempo que el rango del pick 9 es el nuestro y filtran esos dos nombres.

- Siempre se lee lo de offseason 2019. Dejar recuperar a KP tranquilamente, mantenerse tranquilos este 2018, perder partidos para elegir otro top 10 y hacer equipo serio para entonces...

No digo que sea lo que me guste o no, pero el camino parece marcado. Al menos tienen un plan... :roll:
De ese plan, que lo firmo con puño y letra, solo me patina la tonteria de temporada que nos hemos marcado manteniendo a tanto veterano y sin movernos apenas cuando el equipo daba lo que daba porque si ahora en mes y medio hemos recortado la distancia.. si las cosas se hacen bien en Diciembre o Enero, nos hubiera dado lugar de sobras a ponernos en ese top 6.

En fin, al menos el plan tiene logica... espero que no vendan motos y todo aquel jugador, como Kanter, que no este dispuesto a darse cuenta de que este equipo tiene y debe desarrollar jovenes, que pille la puerta y se vaya sin decir ni adios... :alarma:

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por starks_forever » 20 Mar 2018, 13:23

Pick 9 cómo se esperaba, ayer era casi imposible perder contra esos Bulls "B".

Por lo demás deberíamos dar más minutos a gente como Dotson. Lo que queda de temporada es casi un trámite y hay que probar lo que se pueda a los jóvenes. Y vuelvo a repetir que para el año que viene me quedaría con Troy Williams, aunque sólo sea por su capacidad defensiva y físico. Además no es manco tirando de 3, es un jugador low-cost aprovechable.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por nyknicker » 20 Mar 2018, 13:58

cebemaniaco escribió:
sotero_18 escribió:
Anthony Bonner escribió: Curiosa papeleta la que tiene en verano Perry, ....dónde tiene que renovar a KP -que renovará porque todo jugador lo hace en su situación-, y, en principio, es muy tentador hacer un tankeateam, cuestión esta última que casa cero con los intereses del letón.
Podrá gustar más o menos pero hay una hoja de ruta marcada que ya van filtrando de vez en cuando a los periodistas de NY. Solo hay que leer entre lineas a Begley para entender que son mensajes interesados de la FO.

- El asunto Honacek-Noah sigue en standby y filtran a prensa que cuando acabe se tomarán decisiones para ambos.
Despido y Buyout respectavimante, es de suponer no?

- Gustan los Bridges. Asumen desde hace tiempo que el rango del pick 9 es el nuestro y filtran esos dos nombres.

- Siempre se lee lo de offseason 2019. Dejar recuperar a KP tranquilamente, mantenerse tranquilos este 2018, perder partidos para elegir otro top 10 y hacer equipo serio para entonces...

No digo que sea lo que me guste o no, pero el camino parece marcado. Al menos tienen un plan... :roll:
De ese plan, que lo firmo con puño y letra, solo me patina la tonteria de temporada que nos hemos marcado manteniendo a tanto veterano y sin movernos apenas cuando el equipo daba lo que daba porque si ahora en mes y medio hemos recortado la distancia.. si las cosas se hacen bien en Diciembre o Enero, nos hubiera dado lugar de sobras a ponernos en ese top 6.

En fin, al menos el plan tiene logica... espero que no vendan motos y todo aquel jugador, como Kanter, que no este dispuesto a darse cuenta de que este equipo tiene y debe desarrollar jovenes, que pille la puerta y se vaya sin decir ni adios... :alarma:

Estoy de acuerdo que podríamos haber forzado más la salida de algunos jugadores, principalmente la de Lee y O'Quinn, pero quiero creer que las ofertas recibidas eran tan malas que lo desestimaron.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por nyknicker » 20 Mar 2018, 14:00

starks_forever escribió:Pick 9 cómo se esperaba, ayer era casi imposible perder contra esos Bulls "B".

Por lo demás deberíamos dar más minutos a gente como Dotson. Lo que queda de temporada es casi un trámite y hay que probar lo que se pueda a los jóvenes. Y vuelvo a repetir que para el año que viene me quedaría con Troy Williams, aunque sólo sea por su capacidad defensiva y físico. Además no es manco tirando de 3, es un jugador low-cost aprovechable.

está en contrato para el año que viene.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por Magier » 20 Mar 2018, 14:26

nyknicker escribió:
cebemaniaco escribió:
sotero_18 escribió:
Podrá gustar más o menos pero hay una hoja de ruta marcada que ya van filtrando de vez en cuando a los periodistas de NY. Solo hay que leer entre lineas a Begley para entender que son mensajes interesados de la FO.

- El asunto Honacek-Noah sigue en standby y filtran a prensa que cuando acabe se tomarán decisiones para ambos.
Despido y Buyout respectavimante, es de suponer no?

- Gustan los Bridges. Asumen desde hace tiempo que el rango del pick 9 es el nuestro y filtran esos dos nombres.

- Siempre se lee lo de offseason 2019. Dejar recuperar a KP tranquilamente, mantenerse tranquilos este 2018, perder partidos para elegir otro top 10 y hacer equipo serio para entonces...

No digo que sea lo que me guste o no, pero el camino parece marcado. Al menos tienen un plan... :roll:
De ese plan, que lo firmo con puño y letra, solo me patina la tonteria de temporada que nos hemos marcado manteniendo a tanto veterano y sin movernos apenas cuando el equipo daba lo que daba porque si ahora en mes y medio hemos recortado la distancia.. si las cosas se hacen bien en Diciembre o Enero, nos hubiera dado lugar de sobras a ponernos en ese top 6.

En fin, al menos el plan tiene logica... espero que no vendan motos y todo aquel jugador, como Kanter, que no este dispuesto a darse cuenta de que este equipo tiene y debe desarrollar jovenes, que pille la puerta y se vaya sin decir ni adios... :alarma:

Estoy de acuerdo que podríamos haber forzado más la salida de algunos jugadores, principalmente la de Lee y O'Quinn, pero quiero creer que las ofertas recibidas eran tan malas que lo desestimaron.
Yo creo que ni dios se esperaba el rendimiento del equipo en el primer tercio -incluso mitad- de liga regular. De hecho sin la lesión de Hardaway y las pequeñas de KP musculares tendríamos alguna victoria más. En ese escenario sólo tiene sentido desmontarlo todo y tankear si te llegan ofertas buenas, que entiendo que no llegaron, y para malvender y perder tiro palante que, al menos, se estaba compitiendo.

Luego llegó la lesión de KP claro, entonces nos hemos dado cuenta de lo que somos sin él y nos va a servir para mejorar, a lo sumo, 5 posiciones en el draft, que no sé si esto nos favorecerá mucho, espero que sí.

Las cosas no son tan triviales como parecen para muchos por aquí, hay medios de información que aprietan, hay publicidad que paga, hay gente que paga y hay entrenadores y jugadores que quieren ganar siempre y que son profesionales de esto.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por Anthony Bonner » 20 Mar 2018, 15:12

Pues como plan de vuelo es fatal,...sí eso es lo que pretenden lo que tienen que hacer es traspasar a KP.
Esto de confiar en pick 9 en mano,...llevarse a Miles Barkley o Mikal Jordan, hacer una temporada para pick uno, ¿para? pues para Barret Hill, o Barret George o así. Y a partir de entonces con los pipiolos rindiendo cual veteranos, sacarnos de la manga un Wilt Porzingis, y todos los FA locos por firmar con el core....es tan.....Knicks.
Con el pick 9 lo suyo es hacerse con un jugador con rango de titular solvente, de aquí a tres o cuatro años, el año que viene aunque tengas el peor record, que está por ver, lo probable es elegir el 2-3,...y luego tienes que acertar. Aún acertando, para nada tienes seguro conseguir un referente del nivel KP ni siquiera,...y, encima, ese referente necesitará dos o tres años en la liga como mínimo.
Es más, como Knicks no intente hacer un equipo para competir, vaticino que KP va a pedir con insistencia ser tradeado,...con lo cual no me lo creo. No va a haber pulso Perry-KP.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por Anthony Bonner » 20 Mar 2018, 15:19

Que de otro lado, la verisimilitud del plan vía imagen, casa cero con la filosofía Knicks. Unos Knicks que siempre necesitaron de su Lin, Anthony, Stoudemire, KP,...siempre hay que tener un referente que ilusione -aquí sobremanera, pero en general en cualquier franquicia-. No veo a Knicks vendiendo a Mikal Bridges o a Miles Bridges, como juguete del MSG.
Mi apuesta personal es que van a ir a por Kemba Walker, que probablemente renueven a la mayoría de los que están, salvo a los muy veteranos,y que en el draft, salvo ganar el sorteo, que es lo que haría cambiar el plan,....se firman a Miles Bridges, para añadir sangre fresca y ya.
Por ahí si que tiene recorrido el tema Young,...vende mejor el muñeco que los Sexton, Bridges, Carter y tal....de largo.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por NightKnick » 20 Mar 2018, 15:50

En realidad lo que sería muy Knicks, porque llevamos haciendo eso desde que llegó Dolan, es ponerle este verano un contratazo a un jugador que no te va a sacar de pobre realmente pero sí va a evitar que tengas opción alguna de pensar en los picks altos salvo que tengas una suerte tipo Bulls con Rose en su momento. Y desde luego, si un plan consistente en perder puede no gustarle a Porzingis, no tiene pinta de gustarle más el no tener un plan de crecimiento y estar decidiendo a salto de mata.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por sotero_18 » 20 Mar 2018, 16:20

NightKnick escribió:En realidad lo que sería muy Knicks, porque llevamos haciendo eso desde que llegó Dolan, es ponerle este verano un contratazo a un jugador que no te va a sacar de pobre realmente pero sí va a evitar que tengas opción alguna de pensar en los picks altos salvo que tengas una suerte tipo Bulls con Rose en su momento. Y desde luego, si un plan consistente en perder puede no gustarle a Porzingis, no tiene pinta de gustarle más el no tener un plan de crecimiento y estar decidiendo a salto de mata.
Las ambiciones de KP y su entorno pasaron a mejor vida desde que se reventó la rodilla.
Se ha ganado 2 años y pico de margen para rodearlo entre que se recupera y vuelve a ser el de antes. Si en ese plazo no somos capaces de hacerle un equipo potable a su alrededor sería justo que pida el traspaso y a empezar de 0.

Hablar de futuros traspasos es una chorrada, tu partes de un plan base y luego si el mercado te ofrece alguna oportunidad, puedes modificar tu hoja de ruta. Pensar a largo plazo que vas a adquirir a X o Y jugador sin tener ni siquiera assets atractivos es tontería.

Por cierto, en el nuevo mock de Draftexpress nos dan a Sexton por delante de Mikal Bridges. En el 7 saldría Porter y Young 8, todos andan ya por el mismo rango como llevaba diciendo desde hace 1 mes :amor:
Si puede colgarlo Empor cuando lo vea mejor, que ando por el mvl y es imposible.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por cebemaniaco » 20 Mar 2018, 16:49

NightKnick escribió:En realidad lo que sería muy Knicks, porque llevamos haciendo eso desde que llegó Dolan, es ponerle este verano un contratazo a un jugador que no te va a sacar de pobre realmente pero sí va a evitar que tengas opción alguna de pensar en los picks altos salvo que tengas una suerte tipo Bulls con Rose en su momento. Y desde luego, si un plan consistente en perder puede no gustarle a Porzingis, no tiene pinta de gustarle más el no tener un plan de crecimiento y estar decidiendo a salto de mata.
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Espero que a nadie se le ocurra darle un contrato a este tipo... y no lo digo porque me caiga mal, hace piña, es un doble doble constante, un buen vendehumo, hace sus numeros y tal pero lejos de renovar por los Knicks, por favor.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por nyknicker » 20 Mar 2018, 16:54

De hecho los saco de los amigo foreros de realgm.
Spoiler :
1. Phoenix Suns

Deandre Ayton
Arizona
Age: 19.6
C



Height: 7 feet | Weight: 243

Ayton was beginning to answer some of the questions scouts have had about him since high school with a string of dominant performances down the stretch. Unfortunately, the way he ended the season brought many of those question marks back to light. Physically, he's one of the most gifted prospects we've seen in the draft in the past few years, and he has an impressive skill level, to boot.

Phoenix, the worst defensive team in the NBA, will be right to question Ayton's impact on that end of the floor, but his sheer productivity makes it difficult to not slot him at the top of this class.

Starting salary: $8,095,680

2. Atlanta Hawks

Luka Doncic
Real Madrid
Age: 19.0
PG



Height: 6-foot-8 | Weight: 228

After playing 80 games in the 2016-17 season, Doncic went straight into preparation for EuroBasket, which extended deep into September, giving him no offseason whatsoever. His body is paying the toll for that now, as he clearly hit a wall in February and was recently shut down by Real Madrid for at least a couple of weeks. It will be intriguing to see if Doncic can regain his early-season form heading into the EuroLeague and ACB playoffs, which will help him re-establish his candidacy for the No. 1 pick.

Doncic would be a dream selection for the Hawks because he has the size, skill and versatility to fit in well alongside all their existing talent, while also possessing star potential in his own right.

Starting salary: $7,243,440

3. Memphis Grizzlies

Marvin Bagley III
Duke
Age: 19.0
PF/C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 234

Considering their aging core, financial woes and precarious ownership situation, the Grizzlies will likely be looking to return to playoff contention as quickly as possible. With a rim-protecting 3-point shooter in Marc Gasol already in the fold, this is one of the few places in the lottery in which Bagley could actually fit in very nicely alongside another big man and not be pigeonholed into the center position, where his poor defense might be a real concern.

Bagley's athleticism, motor, rebounding, finishing ability and overall productivity will be very attractive here.

Starting salary: $6,504,600

4. Orlando Magic

Jaren Jackson Jr.
Michigan State
Age: 18.5
PF/C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 240

The youngest projected first-rounder, Jackson might have the highest ceiling in terms of his ability to affect the game on both ends of the floor. He has enviable physical tools, including a 7-foot-4 wingspan and tremendous mobility. Jackson's ability to space the floor (40 percent from 3 and 80 percent from the line), block shots (5.7 per 40 minutes), switch on every screen and, increasingly, put the ball on the floor from the perimeter makes him an ideal fit for the modern NBA.

It's easy to see Jackson manning the center position for Orlando in a frontcourt alongside the equally versatile Aaron Gordon and Jonathan Isaac. He also could play together at times with Nikola Vucevic, who sorely needs an athletic, defensive-oriented big man alongside him to make up for his shortcomings on that end of the court.

Starting salary: $5,864,640

5. Sacramento Kings

Mohamed Bamba
Texas
Age: 19.8
C



Height: 7-0 | Weight: 207

None of the Kings' big men have emerged as franchise cornerstones at this stage, meaning it would be foolish to pass on a top-tier talent due to positional concerns.

Bamba will get some looks higher than this, as well, given his rare combination of length, shot-blocking instincts and offensive promise. Every team in the NBA is looking for a big man who can anchor a defense. That includes the Kings, who have struggled on that end of the floor all season.

Starting salary: $5,310,720

6. Dallas Mavericks

Wendell Carter Jr.
Duke
Age: 18.9
C



Height: 6-10 | Weight: 259

The Mavs could certainly use help in the frontcourt, and Carter's basketball IQ and versatility are promising in a number of ways. He is a physically mature big man with a 259-pound frame and a 7-foot-3 wingspan, which will allow him to play the center position in the NBA with ease.

He is a polished player with excellent hands and touch around the basket and has demonstrated a nice blend of passing, shot-blocking and perimeter shooting, despite being overshadowed at times by fellow big man Marvin Bagley III.

Starting salary: $4,823,520

7. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Nets)

Michael Porter Jr.
Missouri
Age: 19.7
SF/PF



Height: 6-10 | Weight: 214

With an uncertain future on the horizon due to LeBron James' free agency, the Cavs will need to stockpile as much talent as they can, regardless of their hopes of keeping the King at home.

Porter came into the season with the hope of making a run at being the No. 1 pick in the draft. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to build his case because of a back injury. Porter's size, shot-creation skill and scoring instincts will nevertheless make him a coveted prospect next June. He is a playmaker on both ends of the floor and is just starting to figure out how to put his talent to full use.

Starting salary: $4,403,280

Cleveland will receive Brooklyn's first-round pick unprotected.

8. Chicago Bulls

Trae Young
Oklahoma
Age: 19.4
PG



Height: 6-2 | Weight: 176

Kris Dunn has had a breakout season for the Bulls, but he could certainly use some backcourt help due to his inconsistent jump shot and shaky decision-making skills.

Young looks like a nice backcourt pairing with his ability to navigate pick-and-rolls, make shots off the dribble and find the open man with impressive creativity. Having the luxury of hiding him defensively will be a key to his early success, and Dunn can defend either guard spot.

Starting salary: $4,033,800

9. New York Knicks

Collin Sexton
Alabama
Age: 19.2
PG



Height: 6-2 | Weight: 183

Frank Ntilikina has had some nice rookie moments, but the Knicks are finding out that the long-armed, 6-foot-5 guard seems better suited playing alongside a more dominant ball handler and shot creator who can take some of the scoring responsibilities off his shoulders.

Enter Sexton, with his tremendous aggressiveness driving the lane, taking off-the-dribble jumpers and putting defensive pressure on opposing guards. NBA teams have some concerns about Sexton's decision-making and reckless style of play. Fiercely competitive, Sexton has shown enough flashes in the right areas to be comfortably projected as a starting-caliber point guard, with plenty of upside to grow into.

Starting salary: $3,708,120

10. Charlotte Hornets

Mikal Bridges
Villanova
Age: 21.5
SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 200

The Hornets are still searching for long-term answers on the wing, where they've rotated a number of players in and out of the starting lineup all season, partially due to injuries.

Bridges is an easy player to slot on almost any NBA roster, thanks to his multipositional defensive versatility, 3-point shooting and role-player potential. He isn't as gifted a shot creator as you'd like from a top-10 pick, so the Hornets will have to continue to rebuild their roster using other assets.

Starting salary: $3,522,480

11. LA Clippers (via Pistons)

Robert Williams
Texas A&M
Age: 20.4
PF/C



Height: 6-10 | Weight: 237

Williams reminded everyone why he was such a highly touted prospect entering the season with a tremendous opening weekend in the NCAA tournament, helping Texas A&M reach the Sweet 16.

Despite playing out of position all season, he has shown that his game is tailor-made for the NBA as a rim-running, pick-and-roll-finishing, shot-blocker/offensive rebounder in the Clint Capela mold. With DeAndre Jordan in the final year of his contract, the Clippers could certainly look to Williams as a potential successor.

Starting salary: $3,346,560

The Clippers will receive Detroit's pick if it falls outside the top four.

12. Philadelphia 76ers (via Lakers)

Miles Bridges
Michigan State
Age: 19.9
SF/PF



Height: 6-6 | Weight: 226

The Sixers are likely in line to draft in the lottery due to the shrewd Michael Carter-Williams trade made by Sam Hinkie three years ago.

Bridges is arguably the best athlete in this draft and plays a coveted position as a two-way forward who can guard all over the floor, something that should be appealing to Philadelphia. He converted 38 percent of his 3-pointers in college, but his lack of improvement as a ball handler is hampering his draft stock after making a disappointing early exit from the NCAA tournament. He isn't as gifted a shot creator as you'd like, but if he's playing alongside the likes of Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, he probably won't need to be.

Starting salary: $3,179,280

Philadelphia will receive the Lakers' pick if it lands at No. 1 or Nos. 6-30. Otherwise, the pick goes to Boston.

13. Denver Nuggets


Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Kentucky
Age: 19.6
PG/SG



Height: 6-6 | Weight: 171

The Nuggets are one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA and will likely be looking to add multipositional versatility to their backcourt, which has been inconsistent on that end of the floor.

Gilgeous-Alexander has the size, length, defensive prowess and unselfishness needed to operate as a role player alongside a variety of guards. His offense has made significant strides as the season has moved on, helping him surprisingly emerge as arguably Kentucky's best top long-term prospect.

Starting salary: $3,020,280

14. LA Clippers

Lonnie Walker IV
Miami
Age: 19.2
SG



Height: 6-4 | Weight: 206

Walker didn't have a consistent or efficient freshman season, but his talent, combined with the lack of depth at his position, is keeping his name in the top-20 conversation. His youth, strong frame, 6-10½ wingspan and ability to shoot with his feet set or off the dribble make him a candidate to rise during the pre-draft process as teams search for upside and diamonds in the rough.

The Clippers' wing rotation is a major work in progress and could certainly use some more shooting, length and perimeter-defensive prowess.

Starting salary: $2,869,320

15. Phoenix Suns (via Bucks)

Kevin Knox
Kentucky
Age: 18.6
SF/PF



Height: 6-9 | Weight: 205

The Suns will likely be looking to add athleticism, shooting and length at the forward positions, where they don't have much depth outside of Josh Jackson and TJ Warren.

Knox hasn't had an efficient freshman season, partially due to playing out of position, but there's a significant market in the NBA for combo forwards in his mold who can make an open shot, defend multiple positions and offer some offensive versatility. He's one of the youngest players in this draft, so he still has plenty of room to grow.

Starting salary: $2,725,680

Phoenix will receive Milwaukee's pick if it lands in Nos. 11-16.

16. Phoenix Suns (via Heat)

Zhaire Smith
Texas Tech
Age: 18.7
SF



Height: 6-5 | Weight: 195

Phoenix could look to continue to add length, athleticism and energy on the defensive end of the floor with the long-armed and explosive Smith.

Originally expected to be more of a 2019 draft candidate, Smith might have accelerated that timeline by helping Texas Tech reach the Sweet 16. He already was rumored to be interested in exploring his pro prospects, even before this past weekend. Smith needs to continue to develop his ballhandling and perimeter shooting, but he's one of the best athletes in this draft, and his trajectory as a prospect suggests he has considerable upside left.

Starting salary: $2,589,480

Phoenix will receive Miami's pick if it is outside the top seven.

17. Indiana Pacers


Keita Bates-Diop
Ohio State
Age: 22.1
SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 235

Unless a major upgrade at point guard presents itself, shooting and depth at the wing/combo forward spots will likely be priorities for the Pacers this offseason, similar to most teams in the NBA.

Bates-Diop has increased his stock dramatically with a breakout season. He has been moving among all of the frontcourt positions for overachieving Ohio State and looks like an ideal fit for the modern NBA, if he can find a way to rev his motor into higher gear at the professional level.

Starting salary: $2,460,000

18. Chicago Bulls (via Pelicans)


Daniel Gafford
Arkansas
Age: 19.4
PF/C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 234

With Robin Lopez approaching the final year of his contract, the Bulls could certainly be in the market for an athletic center who can protect the rim and make plays around the basket.

Gafford's tremendous physical tools and significant upside give him lottery potential. It's somewhere he might still end up at with a strong pre-draft process, but for now, the glut of big men is pushing him down.

Starting salary: $2,337,000

The Bulls will receive New Orleans' pick if it falls outside the top five.

19. Utah Jazz


Anfernee Simons
IMG Academy (HS)
Age: 18.7
SG



Height: 6-4 | Weight: 183

The Jazz might look for a versatile guard who can operate in different lineups without dominating the ball alongside Donovan Mitchell. Simons is one of the least NBA-ready players in the draft, but he's intriguing due to his combination of youth, explosiveness and shot-making prowess.

He's a few years away from panning out, but at this stage of the draft, there isn't much risk, and adding a prospect with his upside would be intriguing.

Starting salary: $2,231,760

20. San Antonio Spurs


Mitchell Robinson
College: None
Age: 19.9
C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 215

With the Spurs' incumbent big men starters both in their mid-30s and no clear-cut successor-in-waiting, it might make sense for San Antonio's front office to consider drafting a project center to develop long term.

Robinson is one of the most talented prospects in the draft physically -- with impressive length, athleticism and shot-blocking instincts -- but is far away from contributing. The fact that he elected not to play college basketball this season won't help his NBA readiness, but at some point in the draft, he's worth taking a gamble on as a developmental project.

Starting salary: $2,142,360

21. Washington Wizards


Troy Brown
Oregon
Age: 18.6
SG



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 210

Washington's wing rotation could certainly use more depth, and Brown's versatility as a big ball handler, defender and rebounder is intriguing in a league that is starved for players at his position.

Brown's inconsistency as a perimeter shooter has made it difficult for him to fully break out, but being the third-youngest player in this draft class means he still has time to address that.

Starting salary: $2,056,680

22. Atlanta Hawks (via Wolves)

Dzanan Musa
Cedevita
Age: 18.8
SF



Height: 6-9 | Weight: 195

With the second of their three first-round picks, the Hawks might look to add some depth at forward.

Musa's size, scoring instincts and aggressiveness could be intriguing at this stage of the draft. He's one of the youngest players in this class, but he already is productive in Europe, playing at a fairly high level.

Starting salary: $1,974,480

Atlanta will receive Minnesota's pick if it is outside the lottery.

23. Los Angeles Lakers (via Cavs)


Aaron Holiday
UCLA
Age: 21.4
PG



Height: 6-1 | Weight: 187

Even with Lonzo Ball in place, the Lakers should be looking to solidify their backcourt rotation and add more shooting, ballhandling, defensive intensity and athleticism. Ball's size gives him the ability to operate alongside another combo guard, and it would be beneficial for him to have scoring to take the pressure off.

Holiday has broken through in a major way, and he would bring a number of attractive traits with his microwave scoring ability, long wingspan and toughness.

Starting salary: $1,895,520

The Lakers will receive Cleveland's pick if it is outside the top three.

24. Philadelphia 76ers


Khyri Thomas
Creighton
Age: 21.8
SG



Height: 6-3 | Weight: 210

Thomas is one of the better defenders in college basketball, capable of guarding three positions with his 6-foot-11 wingspan. He's also a willing ball mover, a promising spot-up shooter and exactly the type of gritty, unselfish character NBA teams covet in role players.

The Sixers have seen their wing depth stretched thin this season and might look to bolster their rotation with a player in Thomas' mold.

Starting salary: $1,819,800

25. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Thunder)

Jacob Evans
Cincinnati
Age: 20.7
SG/SF



Height: 6-6 | Weight: 210

Minnesota's wing rotation will need to be shored up over the summer.

Evans is an ultra-versatile player who guards all over the floor, plays on and off the ball for Cincinnati and sports a career 38 percent mark from 3-point territory at the college level.

Starting salary: $1,746,840

Minnesota will receive Oklahoma City's pick if it is outside the lottery.

26. Portland Trail Blazers


Chandler Hutchison
Boise State
Age: 21.8
SG/SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 193

Portland's wing rotation could use some added depth.

Hutchison has made significant strides with his game as a senior. He looks primed to take advantage of the lack of wings in the draft -- and the NBA in general -- this June. He has outstanding physical tools and is a much-improved ball handler and perimeter shooter.

Starting salary: $1,689,000

27. Boston Celtics


De'Anthony Melton
USC
Age: 19.8
PG/SG



Height: 6-3 | Weight: 195

The Celtics have a tough decision in front of them with Marcus Smart entering free agency, and they might need to find a less expensive backcourt option to avoid luxury tax issues.

Melton looked to be on the verge of a breakout season for USC before the FBI's investigation into recruiting shut him down indefinitely. His defensive versatility, toughness and intangibles make him a prospect worth investing in.

Starting salary: $1,640,400

28. Brooklyn Nets (via Raptors)


Tyus Battle
Syracuse
Age: 20.4
SG/SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 204

The Nets are still figuring out what their long-term wing rotation will look like and could very well take a flier on a player such as Battle at the end of the first round.

He's a solid-sized shooting guard with smooth athleticism and a frame that will fill out nicely in time. He improved considerably as a half-court creator as a sophomore, even if his efficiency leaves a lot to be desired.

Starting salary: $1,630,320

Brooklyn will receive Toronto's pick if it is outside the lottery.

29. Golden State Warriors

Bruce Brown
Miami
Age: 21.5
SG



Height: 6-3 | Weight: 200

The Warriors are way over the luxury tax and will want to find contributors on cheap rookie contracts.

Although he had a disappointing season that ended with an injury, Brown is a willing passer, lockdown defender and gritty rebounder, and he has shown enough promise with his jump shot at times to lead you to believe he will become adequate here eventually. There's a significant market for players in his mold, provided he has a strong pre-draft process (if he chooses to enter the draft).

Starting salary: $1,618,320

30. Atlanta Hawks (via Rockets)


Devonte' Graham
Kansas
Age: 23.0
PG



Height: 6-2 | Weight: 175

With their third and final first-round pick, the Hawks might look to add some backcourt depth, specifically someone who can play behind or alongside incumbent starters Dennis Schroder and Kent Bazemore.

Graham is a ready-made role player, thanks to his terrific experience playing winning basketball at Kansas for four years. He's a 41 percent 3-point shooter and a multipositional defender who ranked third in the country in assists.

Starting salary: $1,606,680

Atlanta will receive Houston's pick if it is outside the top three.

Second round
31. Suns

Jalen Brunson | PG | Age: 21.5 | Villanova

32. Hawks

Melvin Frazier | SF | Age: 21.5 | Tulane

33. Grizzlies

Grayson Allen | SG | Age: 22.4 | Duke

34. Magic

Landry Shamet | PG | Age: 21.0 | Wichita St

35. Kings

Hamidou Diallo | SG | Age: 19.6 | Kentucky

36. Mavericks

Shake Milton | PG/SG | Age: 21.4 | SMU

37. 76ers (via Nets)

Chimezie Metu | PF/C | Age: 20.9 | USC

38. Knicks (via Bulls)

Jalen Hudson | SG | Age: 21.8 | Florida

39. 76ers (via Knicks)

Jerome Robinson | PG | Age: 21.0 | Boston College

40. Magic (via Hornets)

Jevon Carter | PG | Age: 22.5 | West Virginia

41. Pistons

Tony Carr | PG | Age: 20.4 | Penn St

42. Nets (via Lakers)

Trevon Duval | PG | Age: 19.6 | Duke

43. Lakers (via Nuggets)

Rodions Kurucs | SF/PF | Age: 20.1 | Barcelona

44. Nuggets (via Clippers)

Gary Trent Jr. | SG | Age: 19.1 | Duke

45. Suns (via Bucks)

Elie Okobo | PG | Age: 20.4 | Pau-Orthez

46. Rockets (via Heat)

Kevin Hervey | SF | Age: 21.6 | Texas Arlington

47. Pacers

Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk | SG | Age: 20.7 | Kansas

48. Pelicans

Isaac Bonga | SF | Age: 18.3 | Frankfurt

49. Jazz

Moritz Wagner | C | Age: 20.8 | Michigan

50. Spurs

Rawle Alkins | SG | Age: 20.3 | Arizona

51. Wizards

Ray Spalding | PF | Age: 21.0 | Louisville

52. Wolves

Brandon McCoy | C | Age: 19.7 | UNLV


53. Hornets (via Cavs)

Vincent Edwards | SF/PF | Age: 21.9 | Purdue

54. 76ers

DJ Hogg | SF/PF | Age: 21.5 | Texas A&M

55. Thunder

Arnoldas Kulboka | SF | Age: 20.2 | Capo D'Orlando

56. Mavericks (via Blazers)

Devon Hall | SG | Age: 22.6 | Virginia

57. Thunder (via Celtics)

Alize Johnson | PF | Age: 21.9 | Missouri St

58. Suns (via Raptors)

Bonzie Colson | PF | Age: 22.1 | Notre Dame

59. Nuggets (via Warriors)

MiKyle McIntosh | SF/PF | Age: 23.6 | Oregon

60. 76ers (via Rockets)

Amine Noua | PF | Age: 21.1 | Villeurbanne

Y como dices, se da el curioso caso que los de nuestro rango hasta el 13 o 14, vienen dándole fuerte en el MadMarchness así que habrán muchas incógnitas este año que se resolverán en el último minuto en la noche del draft.

Spree85
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por Spree85 » 20 Mar 2018, 16:56

Si no me equivoco el record de los Knicks tras el deadline es de 2-13, y las victorias son estos dos ultimos partidos, no se de verdad cual creeis que seria el record sin Lee y Kanter. Lo de ayer es una encerrona, en casa contra un equipo de escombros era imposible perder, la unica victoria "criticable" es la de Hornets. 2-13 amigos. Tras la lesion de Porzingis el tank esta siendo de un nivel espectacular, criticad cualquier cosa anterior a esa lesion y podemos discutir sobre lo que era mas conveniente, ahi hay debate, post lesion de Porzingis creo que el papel de la franquicia es perfecto en este sentido.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por sotero_18 » 20 Mar 2018, 17:06

nyknicker escribió:De hecho los saco de los amigo foreros de realgm.
Spoiler :
1. Phoenix Suns

Deandre Ayton
Arizona
Age: 19.6
C



Height: 7 feet | Weight: 243

Ayton was beginning to answer some of the questions scouts have had about him since high school with a string of dominant performances down the stretch. Unfortunately, the way he ended the season brought many of those question marks back to light. Physically, he's one of the most gifted prospects we've seen in the draft in the past few years, and he has an impressive skill level, to boot.

Phoenix, the worst defensive team in the NBA, will be right to question Ayton's impact on that end of the floor, but his sheer productivity makes it difficult to not slot him at the top of this class.

Starting salary: $8,095,680

2. Atlanta Hawks

Luka Doncic
Real Madrid
Age: 19.0
PG



Height: 6-foot-8 | Weight: 228

After playing 80 games in the 2016-17 season, Doncic went straight into preparation for EuroBasket, which extended deep into September, giving him no offseason whatsoever. His body is paying the toll for that now, as he clearly hit a wall in February and was recently shut down by Real Madrid for at least a couple of weeks. It will be intriguing to see if Doncic can regain his early-season form heading into the EuroLeague and ACB playoffs, which will help him re-establish his candidacy for the No. 1 pick.

Doncic would be a dream selection for the Hawks because he has the size, skill and versatility to fit in well alongside all their existing talent, while also possessing star potential in his own right.

Starting salary: $7,243,440

3. Memphis Grizzlies

Marvin Bagley III
Duke
Age: 19.0
PF/C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 234

Considering their aging core, financial woes and precarious ownership situation, the Grizzlies will likely be looking to return to playoff contention as quickly as possible. With a rim-protecting 3-point shooter in Marc Gasol already in the fold, this is one of the few places in the lottery in which Bagley could actually fit in very nicely alongside another big man and not be pigeonholed into the center position, where his poor defense might be a real concern.

Bagley's athleticism, motor, rebounding, finishing ability and overall productivity will be very attractive here.

Starting salary: $6,504,600

4. Orlando Magic

Jaren Jackson Jr.
Michigan State
Age: 18.5
PF/C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 240

The youngest projected first-rounder, Jackson might have the highest ceiling in terms of his ability to affect the game on both ends of the floor. He has enviable physical tools, including a 7-foot-4 wingspan and tremendous mobility. Jackson's ability to space the floor (40 percent from 3 and 80 percent from the line), block shots (5.7 per 40 minutes), switch on every screen and, increasingly, put the ball on the floor from the perimeter makes him an ideal fit for the modern NBA.

It's easy to see Jackson manning the center position for Orlando in a frontcourt alongside the equally versatile Aaron Gordon and Jonathan Isaac. He also could play together at times with Nikola Vucevic, who sorely needs an athletic, defensive-oriented big man alongside him to make up for his shortcomings on that end of the court.

Starting salary: $5,864,640

5. Sacramento Kings

Mohamed Bamba
Texas
Age: 19.8
C



Height: 7-0 | Weight: 207

None of the Kings' big men have emerged as franchise cornerstones at this stage, meaning it would be foolish to pass on a top-tier talent due to positional concerns.

Bamba will get some looks higher than this, as well, given his rare combination of length, shot-blocking instincts and offensive promise. Every team in the NBA is looking for a big man who can anchor a defense. That includes the Kings, who have struggled on that end of the floor all season.

Starting salary: $5,310,720

6. Dallas Mavericks

Wendell Carter Jr.
Duke
Age: 18.9
C



Height: 6-10 | Weight: 259

The Mavs could certainly use help in the frontcourt, and Carter's basketball IQ and versatility are promising in a number of ways. He is a physically mature big man with a 259-pound frame and a 7-foot-3 wingspan, which will allow him to play the center position in the NBA with ease.

He is a polished player with excellent hands and touch around the basket and has demonstrated a nice blend of passing, shot-blocking and perimeter shooting, despite being overshadowed at times by fellow big man Marvin Bagley III.

Starting salary: $4,823,520

7. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Nets)

Michael Porter Jr.
Missouri
Age: 19.7
SF/PF



Height: 6-10 | Weight: 214

With an uncertain future on the horizon due to LeBron James' free agency, the Cavs will need to stockpile as much talent as they can, regardless of their hopes of keeping the King at home.

Porter came into the season with the hope of making a run at being the No. 1 pick in the draft. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to build his case because of a back injury. Porter's size, shot-creation skill and scoring instincts will nevertheless make him a coveted prospect next June. He is a playmaker on both ends of the floor and is just starting to figure out how to put his talent to full use.

Starting salary: $4,403,280

Cleveland will receive Brooklyn's first-round pick unprotected.

8. Chicago Bulls

Trae Young
Oklahoma
Age: 19.4
PG



Height: 6-2 | Weight: 176

Kris Dunn has had a breakout season for the Bulls, but he could certainly use some backcourt help due to his inconsistent jump shot and shaky decision-making skills.

Young looks like a nice backcourt pairing with his ability to navigate pick-and-rolls, make shots off the dribble and find the open man with impressive creativity. Having the luxury of hiding him defensively will be a key to his early success, and Dunn can defend either guard spot.

Starting salary: $4,033,800

9. New York Knicks

Collin Sexton
Alabama
Age: 19.2
PG



Height: 6-2 | Weight: 183

Frank Ntilikina has had some nice rookie moments, but the Knicks are finding out that the long-armed, 6-foot-5 guard seems better suited playing alongside a more dominant ball handler and shot creator who can take some of the scoring responsibilities off his shoulders.

Enter Sexton, with his tremendous aggressiveness driving the lane, taking off-the-dribble jumpers and putting defensive pressure on opposing guards. NBA teams have some concerns about Sexton's decision-making and reckless style of play. Fiercely competitive, Sexton has shown enough flashes in the right areas to be comfortably projected as a starting-caliber point guard, with plenty of upside to grow into.

Starting salary: $3,708,120

10. Charlotte Hornets

Mikal Bridges
Villanova
Age: 21.5
SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 200

The Hornets are still searching for long-term answers on the wing, where they've rotated a number of players in and out of the starting lineup all season, partially due to injuries.

Bridges is an easy player to slot on almost any NBA roster, thanks to his multipositional defensive versatility, 3-point shooting and role-player potential. He isn't as gifted a shot creator as you'd like from a top-10 pick, so the Hornets will have to continue to rebuild their roster using other assets.

Starting salary: $3,522,480

11. LA Clippers (via Pistons)

Robert Williams
Texas A&M
Age: 20.4
PF/C



Height: 6-10 | Weight: 237

Williams reminded everyone why he was such a highly touted prospect entering the season with a tremendous opening weekend in the NCAA tournament, helping Texas A&M reach the Sweet 16.

Despite playing out of position all season, he has shown that his game is tailor-made for the NBA as a rim-running, pick-and-roll-finishing, shot-blocker/offensive rebounder in the Clint Capela mold. With DeAndre Jordan in the final year of his contract, the Clippers could certainly look to Williams as a potential successor.

Starting salary: $3,346,560

The Clippers will receive Detroit's pick if it falls outside the top four.

12. Philadelphia 76ers (via Lakers)

Miles Bridges
Michigan State
Age: 19.9
SF/PF



Height: 6-6 | Weight: 226

The Sixers are likely in line to draft in the lottery due to the shrewd Michael Carter-Williams trade made by Sam Hinkie three years ago.

Bridges is arguably the best athlete in this draft and plays a coveted position as a two-way forward who can guard all over the floor, something that should be appealing to Philadelphia. He converted 38 percent of his 3-pointers in college, but his lack of improvement as a ball handler is hampering his draft stock after making a disappointing early exit from the NCAA tournament. He isn't as gifted a shot creator as you'd like, but if he's playing alongside the likes of Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, he probably won't need to be.

Starting salary: $3,179,280

Philadelphia will receive the Lakers' pick if it lands at No. 1 or Nos. 6-30. Otherwise, the pick goes to Boston.

13. Denver Nuggets


Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Kentucky
Age: 19.6
PG/SG



Height: 6-6 | Weight: 171

The Nuggets are one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA and will likely be looking to add multipositional versatility to their backcourt, which has been inconsistent on that end of the floor.

Gilgeous-Alexander has the size, length, defensive prowess and unselfishness needed to operate as a role player alongside a variety of guards. His offense has made significant strides as the season has moved on, helping him surprisingly emerge as arguably Kentucky's best top long-term prospect.

Starting salary: $3,020,280

14. LA Clippers

Lonnie Walker IV
Miami
Age: 19.2
SG



Height: 6-4 | Weight: 206

Walker didn't have a consistent or efficient freshman season, but his talent, combined with the lack of depth at his position, is keeping his name in the top-20 conversation. His youth, strong frame, 6-10½ wingspan and ability to shoot with his feet set or off the dribble make him a candidate to rise during the pre-draft process as teams search for upside and diamonds in the rough.

The Clippers' wing rotation is a major work in progress and could certainly use some more shooting, length and perimeter-defensive prowess.

Starting salary: $2,869,320

15. Phoenix Suns (via Bucks)

Kevin Knox
Kentucky
Age: 18.6
SF/PF



Height: 6-9 | Weight: 205

The Suns will likely be looking to add athleticism, shooting and length at the forward positions, where they don't have much depth outside of Josh Jackson and TJ Warren.

Knox hasn't had an efficient freshman season, partially due to playing out of position, but there's a significant market in the NBA for combo forwards in his mold who can make an open shot, defend multiple positions and offer some offensive versatility. He's one of the youngest players in this draft, so he still has plenty of room to grow.

Starting salary: $2,725,680

Phoenix will receive Milwaukee's pick if it lands in Nos. 11-16.

16. Phoenix Suns (via Heat)

Zhaire Smith
Texas Tech
Age: 18.7
SF



Height: 6-5 | Weight: 195

Phoenix could look to continue to add length, athleticism and energy on the defensive end of the floor with the long-armed and explosive Smith.

Originally expected to be more of a 2019 draft candidate, Smith might have accelerated that timeline by helping Texas Tech reach the Sweet 16. He already was rumored to be interested in exploring his pro prospects, even before this past weekend. Smith needs to continue to develop his ballhandling and perimeter shooting, but he's one of the best athletes in this draft, and his trajectory as a prospect suggests he has considerable upside left.

Starting salary: $2,589,480

Phoenix will receive Miami's pick if it is outside the top seven.

17. Indiana Pacers


Keita Bates-Diop
Ohio State
Age: 22.1
SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 235

Unless a major upgrade at point guard presents itself, shooting and depth at the wing/combo forward spots will likely be priorities for the Pacers this offseason, similar to most teams in the NBA.

Bates-Diop has increased his stock dramatically with a breakout season. He has been moving among all of the frontcourt positions for overachieving Ohio State and looks like an ideal fit for the modern NBA, if he can find a way to rev his motor into higher gear at the professional level.

Starting salary: $2,460,000

18. Chicago Bulls (via Pelicans)


Daniel Gafford
Arkansas
Age: 19.4
PF/C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 234

With Robin Lopez approaching the final year of his contract, the Bulls could certainly be in the market for an athletic center who can protect the rim and make plays around the basket.

Gafford's tremendous physical tools and significant upside give him lottery potential. It's somewhere he might still end up at with a strong pre-draft process, but for now, the glut of big men is pushing him down.

Starting salary: $2,337,000

The Bulls will receive New Orleans' pick if it falls outside the top five.

19. Utah Jazz


Anfernee Simons
IMG Academy (HS)
Age: 18.7
SG



Height: 6-4 | Weight: 183

The Jazz might look for a versatile guard who can operate in different lineups without dominating the ball alongside Donovan Mitchell. Simons is one of the least NBA-ready players in the draft, but he's intriguing due to his combination of youth, explosiveness and shot-making prowess.

He's a few years away from panning out, but at this stage of the draft, there isn't much risk, and adding a prospect with his upside would be intriguing.

Starting salary: $2,231,760

20. San Antonio Spurs


Mitchell Robinson
College: None
Age: 19.9
C



Height: 6-11 | Weight: 215

With the Spurs' incumbent big men starters both in their mid-30s and no clear-cut successor-in-waiting, it might make sense for San Antonio's front office to consider drafting a project center to develop long term.

Robinson is one of the most talented prospects in the draft physically -- with impressive length, athleticism and shot-blocking instincts -- but is far away from contributing. The fact that he elected not to play college basketball this season won't help his NBA readiness, but at some point in the draft, he's worth taking a gamble on as a developmental project.

Starting salary: $2,142,360

21. Washington Wizards


Troy Brown
Oregon
Age: 18.6
SG



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 210

Washington's wing rotation could certainly use more depth, and Brown's versatility as a big ball handler, defender and rebounder is intriguing in a league that is starved for players at his position.

Brown's inconsistency as a perimeter shooter has made it difficult for him to fully break out, but being the third-youngest player in this draft class means he still has time to address that.

Starting salary: $2,056,680

22. Atlanta Hawks (via Wolves)

Dzanan Musa
Cedevita
Age: 18.8
SF



Height: 6-9 | Weight: 195

With the second of their three first-round picks, the Hawks might look to add some depth at forward.

Musa's size, scoring instincts and aggressiveness could be intriguing at this stage of the draft. He's one of the youngest players in this class, but he already is productive in Europe, playing at a fairly high level.

Starting salary: $1,974,480

Atlanta will receive Minnesota's pick if it is outside the lottery.

23. Los Angeles Lakers (via Cavs)


Aaron Holiday
UCLA
Age: 21.4
PG



Height: 6-1 | Weight: 187

Even with Lonzo Ball in place, the Lakers should be looking to solidify their backcourt rotation and add more shooting, ballhandling, defensive intensity and athleticism. Ball's size gives him the ability to operate alongside another combo guard, and it would be beneficial for him to have scoring to take the pressure off.

Holiday has broken through in a major way, and he would bring a number of attractive traits with his microwave scoring ability, long wingspan and toughness.

Starting salary: $1,895,520

The Lakers will receive Cleveland's pick if it is outside the top three.

24. Philadelphia 76ers


Khyri Thomas
Creighton
Age: 21.8
SG



Height: 6-3 | Weight: 210

Thomas is one of the better defenders in college basketball, capable of guarding three positions with his 6-foot-11 wingspan. He's also a willing ball mover, a promising spot-up shooter and exactly the type of gritty, unselfish character NBA teams covet in role players.

The Sixers have seen their wing depth stretched thin this season and might look to bolster their rotation with a player in Thomas' mold.

Starting salary: $1,819,800

25. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Thunder)

Jacob Evans
Cincinnati
Age: 20.7
SG/SF



Height: 6-6 | Weight: 210

Minnesota's wing rotation will need to be shored up over the summer.

Evans is an ultra-versatile player who guards all over the floor, plays on and off the ball for Cincinnati and sports a career 38 percent mark from 3-point territory at the college level.

Starting salary: $1,746,840

Minnesota will receive Oklahoma City's pick if it is outside the lottery.

26. Portland Trail Blazers


Chandler Hutchison
Boise State
Age: 21.8
SG/SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 193

Portland's wing rotation could use some added depth.

Hutchison has made significant strides with his game as a senior. He looks primed to take advantage of the lack of wings in the draft -- and the NBA in general -- this June. He has outstanding physical tools and is a much-improved ball handler and perimeter shooter.

Starting salary: $1,689,000

27. Boston Celtics


De'Anthony Melton
USC
Age: 19.8
PG/SG



Height: 6-3 | Weight: 195

The Celtics have a tough decision in front of them with Marcus Smart entering free agency, and they might need to find a less expensive backcourt option to avoid luxury tax issues.

Melton looked to be on the verge of a breakout season for USC before the FBI's investigation into recruiting shut him down indefinitely. His defensive versatility, toughness and intangibles make him a prospect worth investing in.

Starting salary: $1,640,400

28. Brooklyn Nets (via Raptors)


Tyus Battle
Syracuse
Age: 20.4
SG/SF



Height: 6-7 | Weight: 204

The Nets are still figuring out what their long-term wing rotation will look like and could very well take a flier on a player such as Battle at the end of the first round.

He's a solid-sized shooting guard with smooth athleticism and a frame that will fill out nicely in time. He improved considerably as a half-court creator as a sophomore, even if his efficiency leaves a lot to be desired.

Starting salary: $1,630,320

Brooklyn will receive Toronto's pick if it is outside the lottery.

29. Golden State Warriors

Bruce Brown
Miami
Age: 21.5
SG



Height: 6-3 | Weight: 200

The Warriors are way over the luxury tax and will want to find contributors on cheap rookie contracts.

Although he had a disappointing season that ended with an injury, Brown is a willing passer, lockdown defender and gritty rebounder, and he has shown enough promise with his jump shot at times to lead you to believe he will become adequate here eventually. There's a significant market for players in his mold, provided he has a strong pre-draft process (if he chooses to enter the draft).

Starting salary: $1,618,320

30. Atlanta Hawks (via Rockets)


Devonte' Graham
Kansas
Age: 23.0
PG



Height: 6-2 | Weight: 175

With their third and final first-round pick, the Hawks might look to add some backcourt depth, specifically someone who can play behind or alongside incumbent starters Dennis Schroder and Kent Bazemore.

Graham is a ready-made role player, thanks to his terrific experience playing winning basketball at Kansas for four years. He's a 41 percent 3-point shooter and a multipositional defender who ranked third in the country in assists.

Starting salary: $1,606,680

Atlanta will receive Houston's pick if it is outside the top three.

Second round
31. Suns

Jalen Brunson | PG | Age: 21.5 | Villanova

32. Hawks

Melvin Frazier | SF | Age: 21.5 | Tulane

33. Grizzlies

Grayson Allen | SG | Age: 22.4 | Duke

34. Magic

Landry Shamet | PG | Age: 21.0 | Wichita St

35. Kings

Hamidou Diallo | SG | Age: 19.6 | Kentucky

36. Mavericks

Shake Milton | PG/SG | Age: 21.4 | SMU

37. 76ers (via Nets)

Chimezie Metu | PF/C | Age: 20.9 | USC

38. Knicks (via Bulls)

Jalen Hudson | SG | Age: 21.8 | Florida

39. 76ers (via Knicks)

Jerome Robinson | PG | Age: 21.0 | Boston College

40. Magic (via Hornets)

Jevon Carter | PG | Age: 22.5 | West Virginia

41. Pistons

Tony Carr | PG | Age: 20.4 | Penn St

42. Nets (via Lakers)

Trevon Duval | PG | Age: 19.6 | Duke

43. Lakers (via Nuggets)

Rodions Kurucs | SF/PF | Age: 20.1 | Barcelona

44. Nuggets (via Clippers)

Gary Trent Jr. | SG | Age: 19.1 | Duke

45. Suns (via Bucks)

Elie Okobo | PG | Age: 20.4 | Pau-Orthez

46. Rockets (via Heat)

Kevin Hervey | SF | Age: 21.6 | Texas Arlington

47. Pacers

Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk | SG | Age: 20.7 | Kansas

48. Pelicans

Isaac Bonga | SF | Age: 18.3 | Frankfurt

49. Jazz

Moritz Wagner | C | Age: 20.8 | Michigan

50. Spurs

Rawle Alkins | SG | Age: 20.3 | Arizona

51. Wizards

Ray Spalding | PF | Age: 21.0 | Louisville

52. Wolves

Brandon McCoy | C | Age: 19.7 | UNLV


53. Hornets (via Cavs)

Vincent Edwards | SF/PF | Age: 21.9 | Purdue

54. 76ers

DJ Hogg | SF/PF | Age: 21.5 | Texas A&M

55. Thunder

Arnoldas Kulboka | SF | Age: 20.2 | Capo D'Orlando

56. Mavericks (via Blazers)

Devon Hall | SG | Age: 22.6 | Virginia

57. Thunder (via Celtics)

Alize Johnson | PF | Age: 21.9 | Missouri St

58. Suns (via Raptors)

Bonzie Colson | PF | Age: 22.1 | Notre Dame

59. Nuggets (via Warriors)

MiKyle McIntosh | SF/PF | Age: 23.6 | Oregon

60. 76ers (via Rockets)

Amine Noua | PF | Age: 21.1 | Villeurbanne

Y como dices, se da el curioso caso que los de nuestro rango hasta el 13 o 14, vienen dándole fuerte en el MadMarchness así que habrán muchas incógnitas este año que se resolverán en el último minuto en la noche del draft.
Grande :amor:

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Es imposible no amarlo. Este tío le pone las pilas a Ntilikina, Kanter y hasta a Hornacek si hace falta :D
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por nyknicker » 20 Mar 2018, 17:28

sotero_18 escribió:


Grande :amor:

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Es imposible no amarlo. Este tío le pone las pilas a Ntilikina, Kanter y hasta a Hornacek si hace falta :D

Muy buena esa imagen de Sexton.

Por cierto al que suben mucho es a Wendell Carter y lo ponen en Dallas cosa que me cuadra muchísimo junto con Barnes y Dennis Smith.

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Re: NEW YORK KNICKS

por Schmoove » 20 Mar 2018, 17:44

nyknicker escribió:
sotero_18 escribió:


Grande :amor:

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Es imposible no amarlo. Este tío le pone las pilas a Ntilikina, Kanter y hasta a Hornacek si hace falta :D

Muy buena esa imagen de Sexton.

Por cierto al que suben mucho es a Wendell Carter y lo ponen en Dallas cosa que me cuadra muchísimo junto con Barnes y Dennis Smith.
:amor: No si al final enterré el timón del barceo de Sexton demasiado pronto :mrgreen:

Wendell-Sexton, esta era mi apuesta desde el principio y aunque acaben siendo pufos, los sigo bancando.

Obviamente de nuestro rango, que si nos llegara un Porter o Begley, no hay sentimentalismo que valga.
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