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[cebemaniaco]

El stock de Mitchell subiendo como la espuma, hace poco el NY POST dijo que con otro pick de 1º ronda, la opcion Mitchell se podria barajar...

Beyond Fox, who is now a real threat to go top 3-5, Donovan Mitchell has probably improved his stock the most. Likely a mid-lottery pick now

[Kiri]

Deonte Burton es un clon de PJ Tucker

[nyknicker]

Deonte Burton es un clon de PJ Tucker

Si es así, y es un perfil que interesa espero que no hagamos la animalada de pagar 10kilos al año por Tucker cuando con una segunda podemos draftear un jugador parecido.

Sí, Donovan Mitchell subiendo, veremos...

[nyknicker]

WORKOUTS

·17/05/17: Tony Bradley - C - 2ª Ronda // Kobi Simmons - PG - 2ª Ronda // Kasey Hill - PG - 2ª Ronda // Tyler Dorsey - SG - 2ª Ronda

·24/05/17: Deonte Burton - SF - 2ª Ronda // Bam Adebayo - PF - 2ª Ronda // Caleb Swanigan - PF - 2ª Ronda // Antonio Blakeney - SG - 2ª Ronda

01/06/17Luke Petrasek - PF- undrafted

·08/06/17: Monte Morris - PG - 2ª Ronda

·13/06/17: Justin Jackson - SF - 1ª Ronda



Este Luke Petrasek, según highlights, zurdo con buena mano desde el exterior, de la liga de los cerebritos, con Columbia y nieto de un exknickerboker. El abuelo era Connie Simmons de los años 50.

Es un must para Phil, de esos que le gustan los libros. Fijo que está para la Summer league.

[nyknicker]

los hailais del muchacho.

Viendo como asiste desde el poste a los cortes se entiende el porqué gusta a Phil. Lo dicho este será un jugador de esos que está de relleno en muchos workouts y estará en la summer league.

[Sergio Perez Anagnostou]

Es un clon (baratísimo) de Kukoc. Normal que a Phil se la ponga dura.

Enviado desde mi Aquaris M5 mediante Tapatalk

[melomania]

Hombre en ese vídeo lo veo jugando mucho donde ya juega KP aunque si como dice Willy lo quieren llevar más al C.

Llama la atención el tiro exterior sobretodo porque arma rápido, también se le ve buenas manos para robos y buen pasador, normal que le haya gustado a Phill. A ver si le vemos en la Summer o algo a mí me ha gustado aunque esto es lo de siempre, me hacen un vídeo de highlights a mi y también parezco lo que no soy.

[Schmoove]

los hailais del muchacho.

Viendo como asiste desde el poste a los cortes se entiende el porqué gusta a Phil. Lo dicho este será un jugador de esos que está de relleno en muchos workouts y estará en la summer league.

Zurdo y en el segundo equipo de la IVY-League, sólo por eso le doy un sitio en el roaster. Además, que el tío se ha currado el perfil de Linkedin:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-petrasek-a181479b

Intentar conseguir un hueco en la NBA a través de Linkedin es muy grande.

[El Hespíritu]

Mmmh...

No sé qué tiene de especial esa idea.

[sotero_18]

los hailais del muchacho.

Viendo como asiste desde el poste a los cortes se entiende el porqué gusta a Phil. Lo dicho este será un jugador de esos que está de relleno en muchos workouts y estará en la summer league.

Zurdo y en el segundo equipo de la IVY-League, sólo por eso le doy un sitio en el roaster. Además, que el tío se ha currado el perfil de Linkedin:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-petrasek-a181479b

Intentar conseguir un hueco en la NBA a través de Linkedin es muy grande.

La virgen

Esta gente debe ser para rellenar la SL porque no tiene sentido.

[PinHeadKnickJR]

WORKOUTS

·17/05/17: Tony Bradley - C - 2ª Ronda // Kobi Simmons - PG - 2ª Ronda // Kasey Hill - PG - 2ª Ronda // Tyler Dorsey - SG - 2ª Ronda

·24/05/17: Deonte Burton - SF - 2ª Ronda // Bam Adebayo - PF - 2ª Ronda // Caleb Swanigan - PF - 2ª Ronda // Antonio Blakeney - SG - 2ª Ronda

·31/05/17: Luke Petrasek - PF - Undrafted // Isaiah Briscoe - PG - 2ª Ronda // Sindarius Thornwell - SG - 2ª Ronda // Amile Jefferson - PF - 2ª Ronda // Canyon Barry - SG - Undrafted

·08/06/17: Monte Morris - PG - 2ª Ronda

·13/06/17: Justin Jackson - SF - 1ª Ronda

[NightKnick]

Han sacado unos cuantos artículos sobre los Knicks y el Draft, saliéndose de las opciones con el pick alto y aquello de que Dennis jr no pega con el triángulo.

A ver si saco tiempo y pongo al menos los enlaces.

[sotero_18]

Ya se le vio mejora la última parte de la temporada pero tras el verano va a venir bastante cambiado. Seguirá siendo delgado pero está dejando de ser el peso mosca que era cuando llegó.

A ver si el encabronamiento le va a servir de motivación y vemos un salto a estrella de la liga

[Sergio Perez Anagnostou]

Pues lo que comentó Willy parece ser cierto. Quieren que juegue de 5.

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[inverno]

Respecto a Porzingis bastaría con que por primera vez hiciera una temporada completa jugando con regularidad. Sus dos primeros años han sido parecidos en el sentido de conjugar una primera parte de la temporada ilusionante y una segunda muy floja.

Espero de el mucho más, creo que el próximo año ya va a estar clarinete que el líder del equipo es el, y solo el.

[cebemaniaco]

If Carmelo is traded before June 30, his 15 percent trade kicker ($8.1 million) can be spread out evenly between the 2016-17 and 2017-18 seasons. Under the rules of the current collective bargaining agreement, Anthony can waive only a portion of his trade kicker that would make a potential deal work under the salary cap (more on that below). If he's traded after July 1, Anthony can waive the entire no-trade clause.

If he is traded before July 1 and wants to collect the entire trade kicker, it is spread out over two seasons. If he is traded after July 1, the entire trade kicker is allocated for 2017-18. However, if Anthony agrees in writing to become a free agent in 2019, thereby eliminating his player option that season, the trade kicker can be spread over the 2018-19 season as well.

Why does this matter?

The trade kicker is added to Anthony's annual salary in trade scenarios, so it affects how much salary teams will need to send out in any Anthony trade (more on that below.)

If Carmelo is traded after July 1 and doesn't amend his early-termination option, his incoming salary with the full 15 percent trade-kicker would increase to $34,369,545. That's a significant portion of the salary cap to commit to the 33-year-old 10-time All-Star.

One more thing worth noting: If the Knicks and Anthony agree on a trade after July 1, more teams will have the cap space to potentially absorb part or all of Anthony's 2017-18 salary.

Here's a look at the cap situations of the three teams (Boston, Cleveland, Los Angeles Clippers) that the Knicks reportedly discussed potential Anthony trades with before February trade deadline:

Los Angeles Clippers: Los Angeles is hard-capped between now and July 1, making an Anthony trade tricky. One way to simplify it: If Carmelo were to agree to waive his entire trade-kicker, the Clippers (or LAC and a third team) could send out salaries totaling as little as $19,567,504 to the Knicks to acquire Carmelo's salary of $24,559,380.

If Anthony wants his full trade kicker, things get a bit complicated. The Clippers can't pay more than $2.5 million of Anthony's trade kicker this season because they are hard-capped and can't be more than $4 million over the tax line.

So Anthony would have to accept a $5 million trade kicker ($2.5 million this season and next) or a $7.5 million trade kicker ($2.5 million in each of the next three seasons if he agrees to become a free agent after 2019) in order to end up with the Clippers.

Remember, Anthony's current trade kicker is worth $8.1 million.

In this instance, the Clippers would have to send out salaries totaling approximately $21.5 million to match Carmelo's salary, would be calculated at approximately $27 million with the additional $2.5 million trade kicker.

If the Knicks, Clippers and Anthony agree to a trade after July 1 and Anthony forfeits his trade-kicker, the Clippers (or LAC and a third team) could send out salaries totaling as little as $20,915,008 to take back Carmelo's $26,243,760 in salary.

If Carmelo wants the entire trade kicker and it's allocated over one season, his salary jumps to $34,369,545, as noted earlier. In this instance, the Clippers would need to send out at least 27,415,636 in a trade to satisfy the CBA rules.

With those figures in mind, here are some Clippers salaries of note:

Blake Griffin: $20,140,838 in 2016-17; $21,373,950 in 2017-18 (early termination option, likely to be exercised, so Griffin could be involved in a sign-and-trade). If Knicks traded for Griffin, it would have to be after July 1 and they'd have to renounce their rights to Derrick Rose.

Jamal Crawford: $13,253,012 in 2016-17; $14,264,988 in 2017-18

Austin Rivers: $11,000,000 in 2016-17; $11,825,000 in 2017-18

J.J. Redick: $7,337,500 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017-18 and eligible for sign-and-trade

Wesley Johnson: $5,628,000 in 2016-17; $5,881,260 in 2017-18

Paul Pierce: $3,500,000 in 2016-17; $3,800,000 in 2017-18

Boston Celtics: If Carmelo were to agree to waive his entire trade-kicker in a trade competed prior to July 1, the Celtics (similar to the Clippers) could send out salaries totaling as little as $19,567,504 to the Knicks to acquire Carmelo's salary of $24,559,380.

Boston has the wherewithal to pay Anthony's full trade kicker ($4.05 million this season and next or $2.7 million in each of the next three seasons).

If Carmelo would like to collect his entire trade kicker in a deal consummated after July 1, Boston could send out as little as 27,415,636 in a trade to satisfy the CBA rules -- the same as the Clippers.

Anthony, as noted earlier, can agree to waive the kicker entirely in any trade made after July 1.

Also, the Celtics have only $73 million in committed salaries for the 2017-18 season. So if they renounce the rights to all of their free agents and turn down any team options, they would have enough cap space to absorb Anthony's entire contract.

The guess here is that Boston would probably chase after Gordon Hayward or pursue deals for Jimmy Butler or Paul George with that kind of flexibility before turning its attention to Anthony.

With all of that in mind, here are some Celtics salaries of note:

Jae Crowder: $6,286,408 in 2016-17; $6,796,117 in 2017-18

Kelly Olynyk: $3,094,014 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017 and eligible for a sign and trade

Amir Johnson: $12,000,000 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017 and eligible for a sign and trade

Jonas Jerebko: $5,000,000 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017 and eligible for a sign-and-trade

Cleveland Cavaliers: All of the numbers stated above apply to the Cavs: They can send out as little as $19,567,504 to the Knicks to acquire Carmelo's salary of $24,559,380 -- provided Anthony agrees to waive his trade-kicker. If there were a team that Anthony would waive his trade kicker for, the guess here is it would be Cleveland; the Cavs give Anthony a chance to play for a title alongside good friend LeBron James.

Two more educated guesses: It's unlikely that Cleveland deals Kevin Love unless something disastrous happens in the NBA Finals. Also, if J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert are involved in any Carmelo trade, it will likely be to a third team. Smith didn't appreciate that Jackson revealed personal details of his off-court life in an interview after Smith was traded from New York; Shumpert has made it clear that he's not a Jackson fan after Jackson referred to James' business associates as a "posse" earlier in the season.

With that in mind, here are some Cavs salaries of note:

Kevin Love: $21,165,675 in 2016-17; $22,642,350 in 2017-18

J.R. Smith: $12,800,000 in 2016-17; $13,760,000 in 2017-18

Iman Shumpert: $9,700,000 in 2016-17; $10,300,000 in 2017-18

Channing Frye: $7,806,971 in 2016-17; $7,420,912 in 2017-18

[nyknicker]

Buff Cebe, menudo tostón, cuando tenga un rato me lo leo.


Venía a comentaros lo que hace unos meses estoy pidiendo a gritos, y es que estaba clarinete.

En el Realgm de los Blazers, han puesto un artículo que los Blazers, debido a la animalada salarial que tienen y a lo que deberán pagar de luxury tax, están buscando socio para dumpear salario junto a pick.

en principio querrán mandar a la costa este, y la lógica nos dice que los neoyorquinos seríamos lo más interesados. Los Nets el verano pasado presentaron la oferta que luego igualaron los Blazers por Allen Crabbe. Y nosotros el verano pasado estábamos muy interesados en Evan Turner.

El que más interés deben tener los Blazers es con Leonard, un center que se lleva 10millones hasta 2020 y que con Nurkic, pues juega un rol de suplente, y Jusuf deberá renovar el verano del año que viene.

Yo creo que de cara a la reconstrucción que debemos hacer y al trade de Melo que dejará un hueco importante en el SF, deberíamos ir fuertes a por Evan Turner y poder pillar uno de sus 3 picks que poseen.

No son tantos los equipos dispuestos a comerse un contratazo como Turner, pero para la idea de juego de Phil es un jugador muy válido, y por Turner deberán mínimo el pick 20 para que alguien se lo coma.

[nyknicker]

If Carmelo is traded before June 30, his 15 percent trade kicker ($8.1 million) can be spread out evenly between the 2016-17 and 2017-18 seasons. Under the rules of the current collective bargaining agreement, Anthony can waive only a portion of his trade kicker that would make a potential deal work under the salary cap (more on that below). If he's traded after July 1, Anthony can waive the entire no-trade clause.



If he is traded before July 1 and wants to collect the entire trade kicker, it is spread out over two seasons. If he is traded after July 1, the entire trade kicker is allocated for 2017-18. However, if Anthony agrees in writing to become a free agent in 2019, thereby eliminating his player option that season, the trade kicker can be spread over the 2018-19 season as well.

Why does this matter?

The trade kicker is added to Anthony's annual salary in trade scenarios, so it affects how much salary teams will need to send out in any Anthony trade (more on that below.)

If Carmelo is traded after July 1 and doesn't amend his early-termination option, his incoming salary with the full 15 percent trade-kicker would increase to $34,369,545. That's a significant portion of the salary cap to commit to the 33-year-old 10-time All-Star.

One more thing worth noting: If the Knicks and Anthony agree on a trade after July 1, more teams will have the cap space to potentially absorb part or all of Anthony's 2017-18 salary.

Here's a look at the cap situations of the three teams (Boston, Cleveland, Los Angeles Clippers) that the Knicks reportedly discussed potential Anthony trades with before February trade deadline:

Los Angeles Clippers: Los Angeles is hard-capped between now and July 1, making an Anthony trade tricky. One way to simplify it: If Carmelo were to agree to waive his entire trade-kicker, the Clippers (or LAC and a third team) could send out salaries totaling as little as $19,567,504 to the Knicks to acquire Carmelo's salary of $24,559,380.

If Anthony wants his full trade kicker, things get a bit complicated. The Clippers can't pay more than $2.5 million of Anthony's trade kicker this season because they are hard-capped and can't be more than $4 million over the tax line.

So Anthony would have to accept a $5 million trade kicker ($2.5 million this season and next) or a $7.5 million trade kicker ($2.5 million in each of the next three seasons if he agrees to become a free agent after 2019) in order to end up with the Clippers.

Remember, Anthony's current trade kicker is worth $8.1 million.

In this instance, the Clippers would have to send out salaries totaling approximately $21.5 million to match Carmelo's salary, would be calculated at approximately $27 million with the additional $2.5 million trade kicker.

If the Knicks, Clippers and Anthony agree to a trade after July 1 and Anthony forfeits his trade-kicker, the Clippers (or LAC and a third team) could send out salaries totaling as little as $20,915,008 to take back Carmelo's $26,243,760 in salary.

If Carmelo wants the entire trade kicker and it's allocated over one season, his salary jumps to $34,369,545, as noted earlier. In this instance, the Clippers would need to send out at least 27,415,636 in a trade to satisfy the CBA rules.

With those figures in mind, here are some Clippers salaries of note:

Blake Griffin: $20,140,838 in 2016-17; $21,373,950 in 2017-18 (early termination option, likely to be exercised, so Griffin could be involved in a sign-and-trade). If Knicks traded for Griffin, it would have to be after July 1 and they'd have to renounce their rights to Derrick Rose.

Jamal Crawford: $13,253,012 in 2016-17; $14,264,988 in 2017-18

Austin Rivers: $11,000,000 in 2016-17; $11,825,000 in 2017-18

J.J. Redick: $7,337,500 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017-18 and eligible for sign-and-trade

Wesley Johnson: $5,628,000 in 2016-17; $5,881,260 in 2017-18

Paul Pierce: $3,500,000 in 2016-17; $3,800,000 in 2017-18

Boston Celtics: If Carmelo were to agree to waive his entire trade-kicker in a trade competed prior to July 1, the Celtics (similar to the Clippers) could send out salaries totaling as little as $19,567,504 to the Knicks to acquire Carmelo's salary of $24,559,380.

Boston has the wherewithal to pay Anthony's full trade kicker ($4.05 million this season and next or $2.7 million in each of the next three seasons).

If Carmelo would like to collect his entire trade kicker in a deal consummated after July 1, Boston could send out as little as 27,415,636 in a trade to satisfy the CBA rules -- the same as the Clippers.

Anthony, as noted earlier, can agree to waive the kicker entirely in any trade made after July 1.

Also, the Celtics have only $73 million in committed salaries for the 2017-18 season. So if they renounce the rights to all of their free agents and turn down any team options, they would have enough cap space to absorb Anthony's entire contract.

The guess here is that Boston would probably chase after Gordon Hayward or pursue deals for Jimmy Butler or Paul George with that kind of flexibility before turning its attention to Anthony.

With all of that in mind, here are some Celtics salaries of note:

Jae Crowder: $6,286,408 in 2016-17; $6,796,117 in 2017-18

Kelly Olynyk: $3,094,014 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017 and eligible for a sign and trade

Amir Johnson: $12,000,000 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017 and eligible for a sign and trade

Jonas Jerebko: $5,000,000 in 2016-17; free agent in 2017 and eligible for a sign-and-trade

Cleveland Cavaliers: All of the numbers stated above apply to the Cavs: They can send out as little as $19,567,504 to the Knicks to acquire Carmelo's salary of $24,559,380 -- provided Anthony agrees to waive his trade-kicker. If there were a team that Anthony would waive his trade kicker for, the guess here is it would be Cleveland; the Cavs give Anthony a chance to play for a title alongside good friend LeBron James.

Two more educated guesses: It's unlikely that Cleveland deals Kevin Love unless something disastrous happens in the NBA Finals. Also, if J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert are involved in any Carmelo trade, it will likely be to a third team. Smith didn't appreciate that Jackson revealed personal details of his off-court life in an interview after Smith was traded from New York; Shumpert has made it clear that he's not a Jackson fan after Jackson referred to James' business associates as a "posse" earlier in the season.

With that in mind, here are some Cavs salaries of note:

Kevin Love: $21,165,675 in 2016-17; $22,642,350 in 2017-18

J.R. Smith: $12,800,000 in 2016-17; $13,760,000 in 2017-18

Iman Shumpert: $9,700,000 in 2016-17; $10,300,000 in 2017-18

Channing Frye: $7,806,971 in 2016-17; $7,420,912 in 2017-18

Excelente cebe. Hace tiempo que pedía un artículo así.


Por lo que entiendo los equipos receptores estarían más abiertos a hacer el trade antes del 1 de julio, para poder repartir en trade kicker en 3 temporadas. Y Carmelo (en principio) también estararía más abierto de hacerlo antes del 1 de julio, porque a partir del 1 de julio, puede renunciar a todo el trade kicker, está en su derecho pedirlo, pero si es tradeado más allá del 1 de julio el trade puede estar supeditado a que Melo renuncie a trade kicker, así que Melo (si realmente acepta un trade a Clippers) preferirá hacerlo antes del 1 de julio, para evitar que le digan que si quiere hacerlo se debe hacer sin el bonus del traspaso.

Así que en principio, el acuerdo Melo-Knicks-Clippers se debería hacer antes del 1 de julio, lo cuál nos viene cojonudo, para tratar de buscar en la noche del draft un tercer socio (Blazers).

El de Celtics, tan solo le doy la opción de hacerlo después de 1 de julio en caso de no poder conseguir a Hayward, y que Ainge, decida arriesgar algo, enviándonos morralla+pick2018 propio. Pero pocas opciones le veo yo a esto.

[sotero_18]

A por el 26 por O'Quinn y chupando un contratazo? Tiene sentido viendo la gente que han invitado a los workouts.

Empor la llevas arrastrando si se acaba haciendo. Va mójate que estas en racha, qué recibiremos en el Melodrama 2.0¿?

Anda que si acabamos con un quintento así:

Ricky Rubio
Ntilikina o Monk
Crabbe o Turner
KP
Willy

Not bad para la mierda de offseason que esperaba.

[LeBronx]

¿Donde hay que firmar para que os llevéis a Turner? De todo lo que hay en el roster es lo más difícilmente colocable, de hecho me parece increíble que por un pick mierdosillo -que luego te sale un I.Thomas de la vida en cualquier lado, pero entiéndase- os lo planteéis siquiera, pero encantado. La verdad que para el verano que se marcó Olshey en 2015, luego se lió de tal manera que complicó toda la flexibilidad salarial, y en estas estamos, intentando desenfangarnos. No se os olvide que aparte de Nurkic, tenemos a Vonleh, que si rompe este año es otro que toca pasar por caja. No hay tantos millones en Oregon.