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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Baerd » 04 Sep 2011, 13:49

Mr.Rambo escribió:Lei a Zgoda en fechas cercanas al draft que el amigo Ronzone tenia un record de 1-60 como entrenador de yogurines puntillos. A mi no me parecia ni mucho menos un lumbreras, supongo que una parte de culpa de las pesimas elecciones en el draft la tendria el.



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por Fumantxu » 04 Sep 2011, 13:51

Baerd escribió:Nadie comenta la salida de Ronzone? El gran fichaje del año pasado etc etc, esperemos para que se confirme lo de Adelman y quiera cierto poder en los despachos(se dice que se pondría a un amigo en ese puesto(Porter)) pero no me gusta la salida.
A ver si se cierra lo de Adelman de verdad.


Lo último que leí al respecto es que tras resunirse con el dueño de los Timberwolves, salió sin un acuerdo de Minnesota. ¿ Se sabe si seguirán negociando ? ¿ Sigue siendo el gran favorito para entrenar a vuestro equipo el año que viene?
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Mr.Rambo » 04 Sep 2011, 14:56

Baerd escribió:
Mr.Rambo escribió:Lei a Zgoda en fechas cercanas al draft que el amigo Ronzone tenia un record de 1-60 como entrenador de yogurines puntillos. A mi no me parecia ni mucho menos un lumbreras, supongo que una parte de culpa de las pesimas elecciones en el draft la tendria el.



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Lo lei en el twitter de Zgoda, estoy buscando el tweet pero no lo encuentro. Debia andar por campus entrenando a chavales en diferentes partidillos y hasta este verano y tras 60 partidos logró su primera victoria.

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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por kratos_91_4 » 06 Sep 2011, 11:10

Baerd escribió:
Si fuera por Kahn estariamos con algun otro pipiolo como Rambis en el banquillo.


Yo creo que no, acaba contrato y desde luego cualquiera hubiera intentado ir a por Adelman, creo que tambien se le debe apuntar el tanto a Kahn, en que medida ni zorra.

Más que pipiolo otro viejete (We believe) era lo que yo apostaba.

El que no tengo dudas de que habría sido elección exclusivamente de Taylor era Mitchell.


Buf pues ver a Beasley, Rubio, Webster, Love con Mitchell seria de pajote. Tiros, tiros everywhere.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Fumantxu » 11 Sep 2011, 13:33

Adelman parece que está muy cerca de firmar con vuestro equipo. Pese a que en las últimas horas había sonado también el nombre de Don Nelson, Adelman tiene todas las papeletas para ser el elegido. Su contrato podría ser el siguiente, 25 millones de dólares durante los próximos 5 años.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por seur » 12 Sep 2011, 20:50

Kevin Love: Houston, we have a coach.


Está hecho. :botar:

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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Baerd » 12 Sep 2011, 21:34

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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Fumantxu » 12 Sep 2011, 21:53

Creo que es el entrenador ideal para construir unos cimientos sólidos para vuestro futuro. Además creo que Ricky es un jugador que se puede adaptar bien a la filosofia de juego que tiene Adelman.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Baerd » 12 Sep 2011, 22:30

Sinceramente, para mi es mayor alegría que la llegada de Rubio o Williams*, es un técnico con un gran bagaje, que ha construido equipos muy muy competitivos y ciertamente con un baloncesto agradable de ver.

Creo que por fin vamos a ser un equipo, tarde o temprano, y ciertamente es un técnico con personalidad, veremos como encajan ciertos jugadores y con que ideas llega.

Entre esto y que parece que tendremos liga al final voy a reactivarme que llevo todo el verano bastante out de todo.
Y con Rubio voy a tener que aprender a trampear el INLP, puñetero plus.

* Ya puede ser bueno para no arrepentirnos aun más que el dia del draft, excelente pinta la que tienen los dos pivots europeos.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Baerd » 12 Sep 2011, 22:41

When I talked about the prospect of me re-signing, I always said one of the things we’d have to have is a great coach,” he said. “If it’s true, we’ve got a great coach.”


Love has known Adelman since he was in junior-high school and he played high-school ball with Adelman’s son Patrick.

"We've always had a good relationship," Love said of Adelman. "Looking back to high school, I always asked myself, `What does Rick think I need to improve?' I kept asking him for advice whenver I had the chance to talk to Rick. I always thought it'd be very interesting and intriguing to play under such a well-respected coach, who I know well. who has been there and done that.

"He adds credibility to our team."

Think Love envisions himself fitting into Adelman's system, which emphasizes big men who can shoot, handle the ball and pass away from the basket.

"Yeah, like Chris Webber, Vlade (Divac), Brad Miller or any of those guys," Love said, referring to big men Adelman coached at Sacramento in the early 2000s. "That'd be perfect for me, working from the high post, being a facilitator. He has had a lot of success. He went to Houston thinking he'd have Yao (Ming) and Tracy McGrady there and he ends up coaching Aaron Brooks, (Luis) Scola and Chuck Hayes to a better than .500 record.

"He made the best of the situation there. I'd love to see what he'd do with all the very young talent we have here."
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Fumantxu » 12 Sep 2011, 22:46

Baerd escribió:
Think Love envisions himself fitting into Adelman's system, which emphasizes big men who can shoot, handle the ball and pass away from the basket.

"Yeah, like Chris Webber, Vlade (Divac), Brad Miller or any of those guys," Love said, referring to big men Adelman coached at Sacramento in the early 2000s. "That'd be perfect for me, working from the high post, being a facilitator. He has had a lot of success. He went to Houston thinking he'd have Yao (Ming) and Tracy McGrady there and he ends up coaching Aaron Brooks, (Luis) Scola and Chuck Hayes to a better than .500 record.

"He made the best of the situation there. I'd love to see what he'd do with all the very young talent we have here."


Pues como he dicho en el otro hilo abierto en el general, creo que con Adelman podemos ver a un Love mucho más completo y mejor jugador incluso. Creo que la llegada de Adelman no solo va a ser positiva para la imagen de los Timberwolves, que estaba en cuestión en las últimas temporadas, sino que además le puede dar un estilo ha vuestro equipo, puede empezar a poner unos cimientos sólidos para el futuro y con algunos jugadores en concreto, los puede mejorar bastante. Este proceso no será ni rápido, ni sencillo, pero tiene tiempo, hay materia prima y es un gran entrenador. Desde luego para los aficionados de los Timberwolves es una gran noticia.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Baerd » 13 Sep 2011, 21:51

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... ves_091211

Woj sobre Kahn, Adelman, Taylor......
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por baerd_drow » 17 Sep 2011, 18:13

Baerd escribió:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=As9SSfxdVh.oKh.MwdG3Ie28vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_rick_adelman_twolves_091211

Woj sobre Kahn, Adelman, Taylor......


http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingdwigh ... eedID=8351

Adelman can coach -- and he WANTS to coach Minnesota. Certainly, he didn't need the money he's getting. My guess is that he loves the young talent that Kahn has accumulated. And the cap room that's there, too.

It's a great situation where the team has won but 32 games total in the past two seasons. Adelman -- if the lockout doesn't keep him from having ample time to work with his new team -- may win that many in his first year. He's that good.

And while we're at it, let's give Kahn some credit here, too. He didn't win Adelman over to Minnesota because of a long-time friendship or by using Kevin Love as bait. Whatever he did, however he romanced him, it worked -- and it's a huge coup for the Timberwolves.

Kahn has made some serious blunders in Minnesota. He's always had a way of antagonizing some people on the way to wherever it is he's headed. But he's been pretty successful in his life, too, and is one of the brightest people I know.

I think before the story has been told in Minnesota, Kahn may end up being part of a success story -- and a huge part of that starts with the hiring of Rick Adelman.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por baerd_drow » 17 Sep 2011, 18:19

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It’s time to correct some misconceptions that are floating around about the coaching situation in Minnesota.

First and foremost, yes, Rick Adelman and Timberwolves president David Kahn did exchange some pleasantries following Adelman’s Houston Rockets’ 121-102 win over the Timberwolves on April 13. The two were acquaintances because they are both from the Portland, Oregon area, though to say they were friends might be overstating things. It’s being said that this was the beginning of some secret plot for Adelman to take over the Timberwolves organization, but nothing could be further from the truth. You see, at that time, two important events had not taken place: Rick Adelman had not officially stepped down as Houston’s head coach, and the Timberwolves had not yet decided to fire head coach Kurt Rambis.

The Houston Rockets, in fact, offered Adelman a contract, but he turned it down because he was tired of having to piece together lineups for a team that couldn’t seem to add the free agents they needed. Adelman just didn’t need the headache. He’s 65 years old, has more money than he knows how to spend, and really just cares about teaching and coaching. The more he has to worry about front office moves or anything else the more miserable he is. He was seriously considering just taking a year or two off from basketball, especially since it was a busy summer for his family and he wanted to be a part of all of that.

Did David Kahn know Adelman, and exchange some postgame pleasantries as many people from one team do with another following a game? Sure. Were they, at that time, planning to work together? Not at all.

It’s also completely inaccurate to characterize the relationship between Adelman and Kahn as contentious, in reference to Adelman’s time as the head coach of the Portland Trail Blazers and Kahn’s time as a journalist covering the team. If there were ever any hard feelings between the two, which both deny, that’s ancient water under a far away bridge. Let’s keep in mind – Adelman last coached the Blazers in 1994. Why would Adelman take a job he doesn’t need to work for a man he doesn’t like? He wouldn’t.

Next up we have the involvement of Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor in the Adelman hire. It’s been suggested that Kahn couldn’t get the job done, that Adelman wouldn’t work with Kahn, so Taylor had to step in and close the deal. This is absolute nonsense. Taylor was in the room for discussions, as was team CEO Rob Moor, but it was Kahn’s call. The reason it took so long for Adelman to get on board was because he had several big events in his family and he wasn’t thinking about basketball. Once his calendar cleared, the deal with Minnesota progressed quickly, primarily handled by Kahn himself.

In fact, on a conference call on Tuesday, Adelman and Kahn openly laughed at this suggestion that they don’t get along for some reason.

Next up, Kevin Love. There is a perception that Adelman and Kevin Love are old family friends, that Adelman wanted to coach the Timberwolves so he could coach his son’s old high school basketball buddy. Adelman does have somewhat of a relationship with Love, but that didn’t figure prominently into his desire to coach the Timberwolves.

So now we have the reasons that did not figure prominently into Adelman’s decision to head to Minnesota. Why, exactly, did Rick Adelman take the job?

Simple. Rick Adelman is a teacher. He loves developing young players and he loves finding ways to make the most of his talent. He doesn’t need or care about the money, he wants nothing to do with front office politics. Rick Adelman wants to walk into a gym every day and teach kids how to play basketball and then turn that teaching into lessons that garner wins on the basketball court.

Crucial to this discussion was Ricky Rubio, the heralded Spanish point guard who is now facing questions about whether or not he can play at the NBA level. When Kahn was discussing Rubio with Adelman, the former Sacramento Kings head coach pointed out that he had once made something out of a young man named Jason Williams, who many thought would never be a good NBA point guard. Williams may never have been an All-Star, but he has had, to date, 12 seasons to his credit, largely because Adelman believed in him and helped him grow into the player he became.

Beyond that, when you look at the Timberwolves’ roster you see everything Adelman loves about the NBA. There are no egos, and there are only five players on their 16-man roster with more than three years of NBA experience. There are three international players on the squad, and it was Adelman’s Sacramento team (featuring Vlade Divac, Peja Stojakovic, Hedo Turkoglu) that really put international basketball players on the NBA radar. In short, the Timberwolves are a virtual blank slate with enormous potential and their biggest areas of need are areas where Adelman has repeatedly shown strength.

The Timberwolves also present Adelman with the golden opportunity to take a team from the worst record in the Western Conference to respectability in what could be record time. Adelman’s track record for that sort of thing is virtually unmatched in the ranks of NBA head coaches. Instead of taking players and forcing them to change to fit a system, Adelman looks at his players’ strengths and creates a system to match – often on the fly. It’s what kept the Houston Rockets winning when their roster was overcome with injuries, and it’s what will make the Timberwolves a better team on Day One.

So, to set the record straight, it was Timberwolves president David Kahn who hired Rick Adelman. He did it directly, with Glen Taylor’s support, but not his direct involvement. Adelman’s interest in the job had little to do with money, and much more to do with the fact that he’s taking on a young, promising franchise with young players who he can mold into – hopefully – a playoff team.

Finally, the last thing on Rick Adelman’s mind is taking over as GM of the Timberwolves – or any other team – down the line. He wants to be down in the dirt with his players, and as far away from front office politics and dealings as he can possibly be.
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Baerd » 25 Sep 2011, 13:27

Love's weight has dropped below 240 lbs for the first time since "my freshman year of high school".

"Professionally, the time provided me with an opportunity to rest and methodically work my way up to a healthy state. I worked slowly and built up my stamina and strength through yoga, strength training, and cardiovascular conditioning … I feel better than I ever have. For the first time since my freshman year in high school (2003-04) I weigh under 240 pounds, and my strength has consistently gone up. "
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Mr.Rambo » 27 Sep 2011, 15:05

Le ha sentado bien el volley playa a Love.

Mañana tendremos a Ricky en el hormiguero y el viernes en otra movida, no haran mas que chorradas pero bueno, ahi estaran la Simon y la Pedroche.

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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por baerd_drow » 02 Oct 2011, 18:12

Por cierto las Lynx en la final, a ver si llevan un campeonato a la ciudad que el de los chicos no lo veo cercano :D
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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Mr.Rambo » 08 Oct 2011, 10:54

baerd_drow escribió:Por cierto las Lynx en la final, a ver si llevan un campeonato a la ciudad que el de los chicos no lo veo cercano :D


3-0 y el título para Minnesota.

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por Profky » 08 Oct 2011, 11:21

Enhorabuena pues ;) .

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Re: M.T'Wolves 11-12: Draft'11, A ver como la lia Kahn este

por Mr.Rambo » 24 Oct 2011, 16:21


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